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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5001 Postby caneseddy » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:17 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5002 Postby Nasdaq » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:18 pm

I was surprised nhc shifted track so much based on model runs that were using old atmospheric data. Everyone was tweeting hey look at these off shore ensembles, but no one was mentioning they were based on outdated atmospheric data. All eyes on 0z runs
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5003 Postby Dylan » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:18 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5004 Postby Ian2401 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:21 pm

00z runs will be big
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5005 Postby chaser1 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:23 pm

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RL3AO wrote:Never could I have imagined people would over react to an eastward trend only for the "spring" to bounce back. /s


It was quite an east shift though. Enough to get the NHC to bite hard. If it does go back west heads are gonna explode.


Very possibly :roflmao:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5006 Postby Full8s » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:26 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:The majority of the ukmet ensembles come on shore of Florida. Everyone better hope this is incorrect because there is a serious lack of concern right now on the Florida coast of a hit. If Dorian is sneaky and stalls over South Florida instead of the Bahamas, a track well within the realm of possibility, that's a serious safety issue. South Florida is currently out of the cone and people are tuning out and the time for evacuations is short. A forecast bust could have life or death implications.


That's an unfair assumption/blanket statement. Floridians are not turning their attention elsewhere. I'm all the way up in the Tampa area and people are being very vigilant despite being on the GOM.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5007 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:28 pm

Remember folks, we are still 2-3 days away from any sort of arrival. These models will shift again.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5008 Postby sma10 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:29 pm

18z UK?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5009 Postby lrak » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:34 pm

chaser1 wrote:
GeneratorPower wrote:
RL3AO wrote:Never could I have imagined people would over react to an eastward trend only for the "spring" to bounce back. /s


It was quite an east shift though. Enough to get the NHC to bite hard. If it does go back west heads are gonna explode.


Very possibly :roflmao:


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5010 Postby gailwarning » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:36 pm

rigbyrigz wrote:In this era of social media (tweets) and the usual news reports citing “extreme” outcomes to raise our pulse and clicks, the misuse or misunderstanding of spaghetti models to communicate danger is indeed troublesome. I have lurked here for some time finally just joined to ask a question, or 2.

Since I have formerly been one of the 50-100 “guests” lurking 24/7 and mollycoddling friends and relatives in the possible paths, I cannot say how appreciative many of us are for shedding light and truth on the actual state of affairs. So thanks to all, as well as the rescuers and others helping and posting.

Since y’all are mostly so kind and helpful with your time and efforts, I just wanted to emphasize that while some are coming at ya a bit for expressing the potential benefits of trends or shifts, there is gratitude and affection aplenty out here. But yes, we dumbos do make some plans based upon what we read here so the guidelines from mods and others does indeed make a lot of sense.


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5011 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:37 pm

We will see if the west trends continue during the 00z runs
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5012 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:37 pm

Likely Hurricane Watches would be needed for a portion of SE FL through NE FL if the 18z GFS verifies.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5013 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:38 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Remember folks, we are still 2-3 days away from any sort of arrival. These models will shift again.

It’s hard to believe that even 2-3 days out the models can be still adjusting.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5014 Postby catskillfire51 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:40 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Remember folks, we are still 2-3 days away from any sort of arrival. These models will shift again.

It’s hard to believe that even 2-3 days out the models can be still adjusting.


I am wondering if all the issues with Recon the past couple of days are playing a big part in this
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5015 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:40 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Remember folks, we are still 2-3 days away from any sort of arrival. These models will shift again.

It’s hard to believe that even 2-3 days out the models can be still adjusting.


No, it isn’t.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5016 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:40 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Remember folks, we are still 2-3 days away from any sort of arrival. These models will shift again.

It’s hard to believe that even 2-3 days out the models can be still adjusting.

Always tough when a Hurricane is turning into a weakness
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5017 Postby sma10 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:41 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Remember folks, we are still 2-3 days away from any sort of arrival. These models will shift again.

It’s hard to believe that even 2-3 days out the models can be still adjusting.


Especially IF there's a stall. I suppose there's evidence of a model performing brilliantly throughout a stall episode, but my remembrances are that they tend to be dodgy
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5018 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:43 pm

HWRF running slightly south
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5019 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:43 pm

sma10 wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Remember folks, we are still 2-3 days away from any sort of arrival. These models will shift again.

It’s hard to believe that even 2-3 days out the models can be still adjusting.


Especially IF there's a stall. I suppose there's evidence of a model performing brilliantly throughout a stall episode, but my remembrances are that they tend to be dodgy

Weak steering = Weaker forecasting
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#5020 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:44 pm

HMON slightly faster
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