ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7661 Postby WeatherOrKnot » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:52 pm

Palm Beach County Schools are closed Wednesday as well now as a result of Dorian’s slow movement.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7662 Postby Nimbus » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:56 pm

Starting from a dead stall he might even wobble off NNE a little.
Some of the model runs 36 hours ago had some latitude gain above 27 N overnight tonight.
The cloud tops have been warming and the sustained winds at the Freeport observation station have dropped back to 46 knots.
Early stall may not equate to an earlier movement north but it might move out early.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7663 Postby southerngale » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:57 pm

wxman57 wrote:Dorian looks quite a bit weaker than 125 kts, maybe 100 kts now? The longer it remains stalled, the greater the chance that track farther off the Florida coast. Better for Florida that it isn't moving yet. Not good for the Bahamas, though. Josh and Jim Edds are going to have quite a story to tell next spring at the NTWC in S. Padre.

Have you heard anything about Josh? I've been trying to find something on Twitter, but haven't had any luck. I realize they don't have service, but some messages and news are coming from there. My gut says he's ok, but a little confirmation would be nice, like we got with Jim.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7664 Postby PandaCitrus » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:58 pm

Are we seeing another eyewall replacement cycle with an even larger eye? There's a large gap of precipitation west of the eye on radar.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7665 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:59 pm

10:00 PM EDT Mon Sep 2
Location: 26.8°N 78.4°W
Moving: Stationary
Min pressure: 942 mb
Max sustained: 140 mph
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7666 Postby birdwomn » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:59 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7667 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:01 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:Are we seeing another eyewall replacement cycle with an even larger eye? There's a large gap of precipitation west of the eye on radar.


was just about to ask the same thing...
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7668 Postby Bluehawk » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:02 pm

WeatherOrKnot wrote:Palm Beach County Schools are closed Wednesday as well now as a result of Dorian’s slow movement.

On the other hand, Broward ones have not announced anything for Wednesday, while Broward County Government Emergency Services announced they intend to start their regular bus routes tomorrow at noon, and possible reopen the airport as well (final decision to be made at 10 am I think, if I remember correctly).
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7669 Postby Tailspin » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:03 pm

Have you heard anything about Josh? I've been trying to find something on Twitter, but haven't had any luck. I realize they don't have service, but some messages and news are coming from there. My gut says he's ok, but a little confirmation would be nice, like we got with Jim.


Yeah been thinking the same thing. I would have though he would have a sat-phone
as back up in his kit.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7670 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:06 pm

BobHarlem wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:The northern half of Dorian that is over water seems to be growing with quite a few new thunderstorms wrapping around


How does that shallow water there support a storm like this? It can't upwell, but it has to be pushing the water around enough that some of the bays there are dry (and others way overfull).
South side of Grand Bahama is incredibly deep (several thousand feet), north side is like 1-10 feet.


Those shallow waters north of Grand Bahama were very warm in the upper 80s to begin with before Dorian moved in, those waters are so shallow that big ships don't sail through it, I don't think is deeper than 20 or 30 feet so they are warm all the way down to the bottom so there is no cold water underneath to upwell, the only way to cool down is by ambient temp which looks to be in the upper 70s, which is not going to do the trick that fast.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7671 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:06 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:Who thinks this is going to miss the trough?


Close to 0%. You can see it digging over Southern GA and headed SE (area of black on WV image). Then there is another shortwave over Canada that dips down and reinforces the trough later this week:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv-mid
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7672 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:06 pm

The damage really reminds me of Haiyan...even though they were completely different in that Haiyan was a quick hitter in an area very prone to storm surge, while Dorian built it up and tore everything to shreds over time.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7673 Postby SconnieCane » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:13 pm

BobHarlem wrote:Here's a long replay of Matthew's Florida radar if anyone wants to compare (since a few folks were comparing it to Matthew's approach):

http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?234

Dorian looks a lot better organized on radar than Matthew did, but Matthew was larger overall.


Great radar view of Matthew's concentric eyewalls with the decaying inner one wobbling around inside the large outer one.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7674 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:16 pm

It looks more ragged for sure, but 10 hours of absolute no movement I didn't expect. (I figured a loop or something)

 https://twitter.com/cfhc/status/1168706940488339457


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7675 Postby drewschmaltz » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:21 pm

gatorcane wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:Who thinks this is going to miss the trough?


Close to 0%. You can see it digging over Southern GA and headed SE (area of black on WV image). Then there is another shortwave over Canada that dips down and reinforces the trough later this week:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv-mid

Crazy to watch how fast everything moves in those 4 hours..... Except Dorian.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7676 Postby Bigwhitey » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:21 pm

I worked in Panama City after Michael and Florida is very blessed Dorian didn’t rake the spine of Florida like some models were showing last week. The devastation would have been unbelievable. Michael was bad enough.count your blessings and donate something toward Bahamas relief efforts Storm2k family
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7677 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:30 pm

My weather station at home in palm city just recorded a few gusts of 33 mph and it’s been raining pretty hard on and off.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7678 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:32 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

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