ATL: KAREN - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#901 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:50 am

I can't find any link to a chat room on this website. Not sure where to look.

Here's where I see the "center" of Karen this morning. It's just SW of a buoy that is reporting 15kt winds. Squalls to the southwest are decreasing now. I don't think there is any LLC under them. NE wind shear remains quite strong.

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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#902 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:50 am

Looking at the latest microwave pass from two hours ago, it clearly shows the LLC is near 26N & 64W at that time, on the NE side of the deep convection, still elongated circulation.

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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#903 Postby tolakram » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:51 am

wxman57 wrote:I can't find any link to a chat room on this website. Not sure where to look.

Here's where I see the "center" of Karen this morning. It's just SW of a buoy that is reporting 15kt winds. Squalls to the southwest are decreasing now. I don't think there is any LLC under them. NE wind shear remains quite strong.

http://wxman57.com/images/Karen16.JPG


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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#904 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:55 am

Thanks Tolakram for the links.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#905 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:03 am

tolakram wrote:
wxman57 wrote:I can't find any link to a chat room on this website. Not sure where to look.

Here's where I see the "center" of Karen this morning. It's just SW of a buoy that is reporting 15kt winds. Squalls to the southwest are decreasing now. I don't think there is any LLC under them. NE wind shear remains quite strong.

http://wxman57.com/images/Karen16.JPG


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Ah, thanks. However, usually when there is something quite interesting to chat about I'm too busy to chat but just pop in here occasionally.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#906 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:11 am

Very good infeed of low-level winds from the north.
180-degree turnaround from the lack of convergence yesterday.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#907 Postby Weatherboy1 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:13 am

Sure looks more impressive to me at this time. Banding features. Large circulation envelope. Better outflow. Still seems like LLC and MLC may not be co-located. But overall?
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#908 Postby otowntiger » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:23 am

wxman57 wrote:
tolakram wrote:
wxman57 wrote:I can't find any link to a chat room on this website. Not sure where to look.

Here's where I see the "center" of Karen this morning. It's just SW of a buoy that is reporting 15kt winds. Squalls to the southwest are decreasing now. I don't think there is any LLC under them. NE wind shear remains quite strong.

http://wxman57.com/images/Karen16.JPG


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Ah, thanks. However, usually when there is something quite interesting to chat about I'm too busy to chat but just pop in here occasionally.
And we appreciate that!! thanks for all of your insight!
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#909 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:26 am

Jerry may start to entrain LL dry air.
This would likely pinch off the TPW feed to Jerry and give more juice to Karen.
Since this is low-level dry air and there is obviously very moist mid-level air in place, the moist air would over ride the dry air kicking off strong dry-line convection.
Watching today if this happens. Sign would be convection firing up north of the CoC.


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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#910 Postby LarryWx » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:35 am

Today will be quite crucial as far as track of storm. IF the LLC were to unexpectedly relocate closer to the MLC, she’d then be quite a bit W of projections.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#911 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:39 am

Looks like a dry-line may already be forming on the feeder band

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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#912 Postby Jr0d » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:47 am

I wouldn't say she looks impressive, but off hospice watch for now.

I except her to start slowing down tonight.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#913 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:48 am

Ya, cumulus beginning to fire here.
Countdown underway, all tanks are pressurized, power has switched to internal.


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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#914 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:58 am

GCANE wrote:Looks like a dry-line may already be forming on the feeder band

https://i.imgur.com/A4v3old.png


Is there a reason why you posted a wv satellite pix from last night?
Here is the current image:

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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#915 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:06 am

NDG wrote:
GCANE wrote:Looks like a dry-line may already be forming on the feeder band

https://i.imgur.com/A4v3old.png


Is there a reason why you posted a wv satellite pix from last night?
Here is the current image:

https://i.imgur.com/10LkD4h.jpg


Its a real-time image I got from Slider of LL WV not mid-level WV.
I wanted to highlight the fact its LL dry air being over run by mid-level moist air.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#916 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:15 am

This is where I think the LLC is located as of 15 minutes ago, near 26.75N & 64.1W

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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#917 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:15 am

GCANE wrote:
NDG wrote:
GCANE wrote:Looks like a dry-line may already be forming on the feeder band

https://i.imgur.com/A4v3old.png


Is there a reason why you posted a wv satellite pix from last night?
Here is the current image:

https://i.imgur.com/10LkD4h.jpg


Its a real-time image I got from Slider of LL WV not mid-level WV.
I wanted to highlight the fact its LL dry air being over run by mid-level moist air.


My bad, I just checked the time stamp, it is old. Sorry.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#918 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:27 am

Still looking quite healthy. Little bit of ne shear but much less then yesterday... with the increased convection a quicker turn east and se is likely to occur. Assuming it continues this trend
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#919 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:28 am

OK, here's a better, real-time depiction of the ML moist air over riding the LL dry air and associated cumulus firing off.

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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#920 Postby rbaker55 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:31 am

I said it yesterday, and repeat it again today, never count out a storm with convection, no matter how disorganized it looks like that day. We have had numerous days with this storm and previous ones, that pulsate. That being said, the forecast has unfavorable conditions with dry air and upper level shear coming into play. Personally, I think models have a real hard time with ULL's which have a huge effect on TC's
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