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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1341 Postby Blown Away » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:06 am

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Nuno wrote:So much for climatology and history...


A tropical storm hitting Florida from the east...that is currently near/over Belize. :double:


Right, good luck finding THAT in the 'ol history books LOL


Hurricane King almost perfect analog. Happened late October...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1342 Postby Loveweather12 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:26 am

SFLcane wrote:Were is that shield now? :roll: :lol:


Lol and people actually believed their was an actual shield lol. Thank you for your honest analysis & showing all the model options
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1343 Postby kevin » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:27 am

Was away from storm2k for most of the time the last 2 days and just went through the threads to find models showing a hurricane landfall from the WCar into SFL from the east in November. This really is the craziest season ever.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1344 Postby NDG » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:27 am

06Z Euro Ensembles.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1345 Postby SouthFLTropics » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:28 am

06z GFS has shifted slightly ENE

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1346 Postby Blown Away » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:34 am

NDG wrote:06Z Euro Ensembles.

https://i.imgur.com/BwC64k5.png


That will keep Eta maybe just a brush on the peninsula next advisory. NHC heavily leaning on Euro so far, so I think the E models into SFL need to have another run or 2 before NHC makes drastic changes. JMHO
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1347 Postby SFLcane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:36 am

Blown Away wrote:
NDG wrote:06Z Euro Ensembles.

https://i.imgur.com/BwC64k5.png


That will keep Eta maybe just a brush on the peninsula next advisory. NHC heavily leaning on Euro so far, so I think the E models into SFL need to have another run or 2 before NHC makes drastic changes. JMHO


Na that tcvn shifted quite a bit East also note even the Ukmet is east so they should shift a bit north.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1348 Postby fci » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:39 am

Blown Away wrote:
chaser1 wrote:
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A tropical storm hitting Florida from the east...that is currently near/over Belize. :double:


Right, good luck finding THAT in the 'ol history books LOL


Hurricane King almost perfect analog. Happened late October...


Funny, that was the discussion we had on S2K about 3 days ago; the slingshot from NW Carib to the Fl Straits and then a hard left into SE Fl.
King is definitely the analog.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1349 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:40 am

SFLcane wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
NDG wrote:06Z Euro Ensembles.

https://i.imgur.com/BwC64k5.png


That will keep Eta maybe just a brush on the peninsula next advisory. NHC heavily leaning on Euro so far, so I think the E models into SFL need to have another run or 2 before NHC makes drastic changes. JMHO


Na that tcvn shifted quite a bit so they should shift a bit north.


Euro been left bias all year. Why stop now? Have feeling it will slowly shift east in the next few runs .
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1350 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:41 am

NHC seems to be forecasting shear in the medium term once it reaches Cuba. I wonder if it's heavily leaning towards the Euro. It does have some mid-level shear to deal with.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1351 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:41 am


Talk about a spread! :roll:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1352 Postby Blown Away » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:36 am

12z GFS running... Initialized slightly E of 06z... Forward speed will be the difference in SFL E coast landfall vs Keys... Faster = better chance of SFL E coast... JMHO
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1353 Postby caneseddy » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:48 am

12z ICON has a weak TS landfalling in Upper Keys; dirty side over metro South Florida
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1354 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:49 am

12Z GFS is much weaker
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1355 Postby gatorcane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:51 am

Much weaker and sheared on the GFS not to mention it is transitioning to subtropical.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1356 Postby SouthDadeFish » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:52 am

It appears the strength of Eta by the time it nears FL is very sensitive to how strong the storm can get over the next 24 h. If the storm remains a sheared mess, it will stay a sheared mess. If it can deepen a bit as it approaches Cuba, then it may have a tight-inner wind field like some of the previous model runs have shown.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1357 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:54 am

SouthDadeFish wrote:It appears the strength of Eta by the time it nears FL is very sensitive to how strong the storm can get over the next 24 h. If the storm remains a sheared mess, it will stay a sheared mess. If it can deepen a bit as it approaches Cuba, then it may have a tight-inner wind field like some of the previous model runs have shown.

With the way it looks now the weaker solution might be right.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1358 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:55 am

Wow, that's a sensitive forecast. It could essentially be anywhere from 20kt to 50kts depending on how strong it gets beforehand. I wonder if NHC will reduce the intensity forecast by a smidge.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1359 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:55 am

gatorcane wrote:Much weaker and sheared on the GFS not to mention it is transitioning to subtropical.

https://i.postimg.cc/jjz5J8zz/gfs-ir-watl-fh7-61.gif

Looks like all the action stays over water and The Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Models

#1360 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:56 am

gatorcane wrote:Much weaker and sheared on the GFS not to mention it is transitioning to subtropical.

https://i.postimg.cc/jjz5J8zz/gfs-ir-watl-fh7-61.gif


Models seem pretty consistent in a hybrid mess near Florida. May be a case where someone 150 miles to the north get worse impacts than someone who is under the center.
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