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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#161 Postby EquusStorm » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:01 pm

Well this could be close to home. Escalatin' pretty quickly
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#162 Postby SouthDadeFish » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:10 pm

Looks to be coming together near/or just over extreme northern Andros Island. I will go out on a limb and say we get a TC out of this before it moves over FL. Main impacts to S FL will be the same: heavy rainfall with some gusty winds. But if we see genesis that early, that would allow more time for intensification in the Gulf. Folks along the north Gulf should pay close attention to 96L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#163 Postby aspen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:12 pm

We were all expecting 95L to become Sally, but now it looks like 96L will steal the name. 95L will probably take another 48-60 hours to develop into a TC, while 96L seems poised to become one within 12 hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#164 Postby xironman » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:13 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Radar is beginning to to rapidly show rotation to the convection near the north tip of Andros..


If you look at the low level clouds, they are clearly being pulled in about there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#165 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:14 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:Looks to be coming together near/or just over extreme northern Andros Island. I will go out on a limb and say we get a TC out of this before it moves over FL. Main impacts to S FL will be the same: heavy rainfall with some gusty winds. But if we see genesis that early, that would allow more time for intensification in the Gulf. Folks along the north Gulf should pay close attention to 96L.



Agreed. Radar from Miami and bahamas showing a rapidly developing llc.

interesting.. makes the potential gulf outlook a little more grim..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#166 Postby SouthDadeFish » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:16 pm

I think the NHC needs to consider issuing PTC advisories at 5 pm considering how close this system is to land...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#167 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:16 pm

xironman wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Radar is beginning to to rapidly show rotation to the convection near the north tip of Andros..


If you look at the low level clouds, they are clearly being pulled in about there.


yeah mentioned that a few pages back.. there was a sudden shift in the low level cloud motion being pulled in..

well on its way now..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#168 Postby hurricaneCW » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:16 pm

Yeah this spinning up so quickly is definitely concerning and we have globals like the Euro jumping on board.

Conditions look very favorable pretty much throughout its entire lifecycle. The only thing missing is a well defined LLC, once it gets that it could really take off.

I don't even see its passage over S FL being much of a hindrance.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#169 Postby xironman » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:18 pm

Looks like the go tomorrow.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#170 Postby GCANE » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:21 pm

3090 wrote:
GCANE wrote:5000 CAPE over S FL with cumulus building.
Going to see a large blowup of convection in a few hours.
Should take a good chunk out of the PV streamer currently holding back intensification of 96L.
Going to increase chances of stronger intensification once 96L gets into the GoM.

https://i.imgur.com/YioYkKU.gif


Are there weather conditions us non professionals are unaware of in the GOM that could hinder an intensification? To me it APPEARS the environment in the GOM is prime for intensification. But how intense?


Mid next week there will very likely be a large anticyclone over the GoM.
I detailed this in the models thread earlier this morning.
Same kind of setup that was for Laura.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#171 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:23 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:I think the NHC needs to consider issuing PTC advisories at 5 pm considering how close this system is to land...


Are there obs of TS force winds?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#172 Postby hurricanehunter69 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:24 pm

Jesus.....look at the mid level dry air environment this thing has to take advantage of.....By way of comparison, look at how Paulette is surrounded by mid level dry air and is nevertheless forecasted to become a cat 2 hurricane. https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/s ... &length=24
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#173 Postby BigB0882 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:25 pm

Seems like the early model runs favor MS/AL border to very western FL pandhandle. I would like to think of it as a sigh of relief for us in SELA being that this is not that far out but I worry the tracks could definitely swing once it forms and models have an even better grasp. They must not be seeing a very robust ridge.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#174 Postby Jr0d » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:28 pm

Pressure is dropping from Miami to Key West. Fairly light winds though. ENE winds in Miami, N winds in Key West are consistent with a center near Andros.

This might consolidate quicker than expected. Also there is no mention of the system on Key West NWS hazardous weather outlook. We have a 50% pop tonite and 60% tomorrow with isolated to scattered thunderstorms. This outlook will need to be updated soon.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#175 Postby TallahasseeMan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:29 pm

Could development be aided by land interaction with Florida? Tighten up the convection?
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ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#176 Postby Sanibel » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:41 pm

Looks like it is going to form from appearance...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#177 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:44 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
SouthDadeFish wrote:Looks to be coming together near/or just over extreme northern Andros Island. I will go out on a limb and say we get a TC out of this before it moves over FL. Main impacts to S FL will be the same: heavy rainfall with some gusty winds. But if we see genesis that early, that would allow more time for intensification in the Gulf. Folks along the north Gulf should pay close attention to 96L.



Agreed. Radar from Miami and bahamas showing a rapidly developing llc.

interesting.. makes the potential gulf outlook a little more grim..
Convection has certainly increased significantly the last 6 hours which will help to intensify the system
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#178 Postby ClarCari » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:45 pm

UGHH GAWWD The current satellite appearance of this thing looks tooo much like Katrina and Rita in their infant stage in the Bahamas. Obviously not saying it will be as bad and not ruling out it could be as bad or worse, just that this is tugging at my emotions right now..

It’s like if you were watching a Hornet’s nest slowly grow in front of your house :oops: .
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#179 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:49 pm

TallahasseeMan wrote:Could development be aided by land interaction with Florida? Tighten up the convection?


Yes. The frictional effects of land interaction can help to tighten and coalesce a surface low level circulation.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#180 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:50 pm

I smell TD advisories coming at 5..

Also looks like this will become Sally before 95L
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