ATL: SALLY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1781 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:39 am

cfisher wrote:Watch for center reformation further S and E

https://i.ibb.co/F0nxg4y/image.png


Yup.

Got really warm, really quick.
I can probably scratch the pinhole idea now.


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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1782 Postby Buck » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:39 am

Jag95 wrote:
cfisher wrote:Watch for center reformation further S and E

Looks like it's becoming better established where it is . Hopefully they initialize this correctly on the 12Z.


Yeah it's stacked now and the eyewall is establishing itself, only open to the NW per recon. Would be very surprising for it to reform.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1783 Postby Steve » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:40 am

Jag95 wrote:
cfisher wrote:Watch for center reformation further S and E

Looks like it's becoming better established where it is . Hopefully they initialize this correctly on the 12Z.


12z runs start a 7am (CDT) so probably not.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1784 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:40 am

Looking like we will get back to back center passes. First NOAA then AF. NOAA finding above 70mph surface.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1785 Postby SoupBone » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:40 am

Aric Dunn wrote:LLC and MLC are perfectly stacked per Recon.... no more reformations going on.

assuming shear has indeed dropped off.. then given the current structure


this could be quite likely starting an RI phase.

https://i.ibb.co/YTnWRvG/Capture.png


Looking at this, it would need to move nearly due west to hit the tip of Plaquemines Parish, unless this image is deceiving or tilted.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1786 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:40 am

NOAA P3 SFMR is reporting at least 70 kt surface winds. Flight-level winds were still rising on the inbound leg in the northern eyewall. Sally is approaching hurricane intensity.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1787 Postby cfisher » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:41 am

Buck wrote:
Jag95 wrote:
cfisher wrote:Watch for center reformation further S and E

Looks like it's becoming better established where it is . Hopefully they initialize this correctly on the 12Z.


Yeah it's stacked now and the eyewall is establishing itself, only open to the NW per recon. Would be very surprising for it to reform.

Maybe not "reform" , but open up a huge eye.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1788 Postby Jonny » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:41 am

Based on the last few graphics, it looks like a FL panhandle hit isn't out of the question (?).
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1789 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:41 am

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1790 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:41 am

jasons2k wrote:Maybe it's just my eyes, but it looks to me like Sally may be getting caught-up in the deep steering flow and is starting to race off to the north. If that's the case, it's gonna make landfall a lot sooner than tomorrow night (and further east too).


And both further east and quicker landfall probably equates to a weaker storm, much less time over water. 80 mph is a good bet
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#1791 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:42 am

Wrapping up nicely!

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#1792 Postby cfisher » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:42 am

80mm/hr rain rate.. uhhhh
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1793 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:43 am

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1794 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:44 am

153500 2859N 08653W 6968 03109 9999 +090 //// 074062 064 070 080 01

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1795 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:45 am

Don’t tell me this is already a hurricane...
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1796 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:45 am

Recon through 10:36am CDT:
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10am CDT NHC track. Vortex messages from previous missions also plotted. Satellite from 10:30am CDT from SSEC RealEarth.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1797 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:45 am

SouthDadeFish wrote:NOAA P3 SFMR is reporting at least 70 kt surface winds. Flight-level winds were still rising on the inbound leg in the northern eyewall. Sally is approaching hurricane intensity.


So far

153500 2859N 08653W 6968 03109 9999 +090 //// 074062 064 070 080 01

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1798 Postby ThetaE » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:46 am

Important to note: NOAA plane is flying at 700mb vs. the AF plane at 850 mb. So flight level winds shouldn't be compared directly between the two, and if I'm not mistaken, I believe the NOAA plane's SFMR will be biased a bit higher? At the very least, that 70kt measurement, while not flagged, was in 80 mm/hr (!) rain rates. But the NOAA plane is definitely flying through the most intense part of Sally at the moment, and finding some just-under-hurricane strength winds so far. Hoping we'll get a dropsonde in this quadrant.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1799 Postby hurricaneCW » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:46 am

Ugly stuff unfolding. Very large storm will extremely cold cloud tops moving very slowly towards the coast.

Someone might get 30-40" out of this.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1800 Postby Airboy » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:48 am

Extrap. Sfc. Press: 984.2 mb (29.07 inHg) from Piggy so maybe around 988
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