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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#181 Postby AtlanticWind » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:33 am

Hwrf really agressive on 98 l , down to 983 mb.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#182 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:37 am

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TheProfessor wrote:I wouldn't automatically assume that the Ukie and Euro are underestimating the ridge. These models tend to have a left bias and sometimes overdue ridging(especially the Ukie) so if you see them east of the other models, especially together, you usually pay attention to it. That's not to say that they're not both wrong, it's just that it's not normal for them to be on the eastern side of guidance early on. However, as we all know, this year is anything but normal.



IN MY OPINION, If this goes out to sea, then I think everything is going to go out to sea this year(which obviously is a good thing), especially since it's only August, because August is the best chance for storms NOT to recurve...... It's usually not until September when storms get carried out to sea regularly by troughs. August suppose to be the time for long-trackers. Troughs are only going to get more intense and more frequent as we head into September, so then we will just have to watch the Carib and Gulf of Mexico...
I've just seen too many Septembers where it's trough after trough after trough after trough


I mentioned this in another thread but you have to be careful with that line of think in troughy patterns, especially when they're progressive. Storms can get left behind if one trough moves out in favor for short term ridging. That could be enough for a storm to landfall before the next trough comes. There's also the fact that a stronger trough that goes to negative tilt can actually reel in a hurricane like Sandy. Then there's the case of storms that are in the Caribbean do to the reemergence of the CAG that can cause a landfall like with Wilma. It's definitely too early to say anyone is out of the woods even if this storm re-curves.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#183 Postby AtlanticWind » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:38 am

Hmon gets it to hurricane strength, but then weakens it
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#184 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:38 am

ColdMiser123 wrote:It would surprise me if this missed the US:

https://i.imgur.com/CuVZSxn.png


Yeah that's a pretty stout ridge at the end of the Ukie.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#185 Postby AtlanticWind » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:39 am

Hwrf continues to deepen at 90 hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#186 Postby AtlanticWind » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:52 am

Wow ,HWRF has 964mb with a pinhole eye approaching the lesser Antilles.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#187 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:53 am

AtlanticWind wrote:Wow ,HWRF has 964mb with a pinhole eye approaching the lesser Antilles.

Yeah Irma or Maria vibes unfortunately.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#188 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:54 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:
TheProfessor wrote:I wouldn't automatically assume that the Ukie and Euro are underestimating the ridge. These models tend to have a left bias and sometimes overdue ridging(especially the Ukie) so if you see them east of the other models, especially together, you usually pay attention to it. That's not to say that they're not both wrong, it's just that it's not normal for them to be on the eastern side of guidance early on. However, as we all know, this year is anything but normal.



IN MY OPINION, If this goes out to sea, then I think everything is going to go out to sea this year(which obviously is a good thing), especially since it's only August, because August is the best chance for storms NOT to recurve...... It's usually not until September when storms get carried out to sea regularly by troughs. August suppose to be the time for long-trackers. Troughs are only going to get more intense and more frequent as we head into September, so then we will just have to watch the Carib and Gulf of Mexico...
I've just seen too many Septembers where it's trough after trough after trough after trough


Hugo, Donna, Irma, Ike, Dora, Ivan, Ike, Georges, 1926 Miami Hurricane, 1928 Lake Okeechobee, 1947 Fort Lauderdale, Floyd and many others would beg to differ with you on August being the month of long trackers and September being troughy
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#189 Postby AubreyStorm » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:03 am

AtlanticWind wrote:Wow ,HWRF has 964mb with a pinhole eye approaching the lesser Antilles.


Post link please :eek:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#190 Postby AtlanticWind » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:08 am

AubreyStorm wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:Wow ,HWRF has 964mb with a pinhole eye approaching the lesser Antilles.


Post link please :eek:


https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 800&fh=111
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#191 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:10 am

AtlanticWind wrote:
AubreyStorm wrote:
AtlanticWind wrote:Wow ,HWRF has 964mb with a pinhole eye approaching the lesser Antilles.


Post link please :eek:


https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 800&fh=111


HWRF barrels right over Puerto Rico
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#192 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:12 am

00z HWRF:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#193 Postby MarioProtVI » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:15 am

Kingarabian wrote:00z HWRF:
https://i.imgur.com/abjD6Uw.gif

That’s Maria Lite right there and almost same type of bulldozing the island...landfall seems around a high-end C2 (~105-110 mph).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#194 Postby ColdMiser123 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:15 am

Euro so far is a good bit south of 12z and weaker.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#195 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:24 am

00z Euro at 120 hours just N of DR, decent S shift & weaker than 12z.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#196 Postby USTropics » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:31 am

This is headed to the GOM this run, much weaker just off the northern coast of Cuba:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#197 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:33 am

00z Euro caves to the GFS...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#198 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:35 am

Blown Away wrote:00z Euro caves to the GFS...

Ah the models will flip flop a lot I'm betting. They almost always do when it comes to these MDR systems.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#199 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:37 am

Kingarabian wrote:
Blown Away wrote:00z Euro caves to the GFS...

Ah the models will flip flop a lot I'm betting. They almost always do when it comes to these MDR systems.


Agree 100%, especially 5+ days out, but GFS has been consistent w/ 98L more W, or L bias, into GOM whereas Euro has been much more R biased, which is unusual.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#200 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 1:38 am

Idk about you guys, but i'm more concerned about the ridge than intensity. :double:
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