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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#201 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:31 pm

Full W ring.
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#202 Postby Hayabusa » Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:45 pm

Nearing 20Cs but ADT lowers the estimate when it considers the eye large and it really loves cold convection

2020SEP03 180000 6.2 937.7 119.8 6.2 6.7 6.7 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 11.64 -74.70 EYE 17 IR 76.3 21.21 -135.70 ARCHER HIM-8 25.4
2020SEP03 182000 6.3 935.5 122.2 6.3 6.8 6.8 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 13.05 -74.79 EYE 24 IR 76.3 21.19 -136.00 ARCHER HIM-8 25.3
2020SEP03 190000 6.5 930.9 127.0 6.5 6.9 7.0 1.3T/6hr OFF OFF OFF OFF 14.89 -76.16 EYE 27 IR 76.3 21.40 -135.66 ARCHER HIM-8 25.7
2020SEP03 193000 6.6 928.4 129.6 6.6 6.9 6.9 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 17.29 -75.42 EYE 28 IR 76.3 21.44 -135.80 ARCHER HIM-8 25.7
2020SEP03 200000 6.7 925.9 132.2 6.7 6.8 6.8 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 17.80 -74.55 EYE 26 IR 76.3 21.54 -135.69 ARCHER HIM-8 25.8
2020SEP03 203000 6.7 925.9 132.2 6.7 6.7 6.7 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 18.07 -73.48 EYE 31 IR 80.4 21.59 -135.57 ARCHER HIM-8 25.9
2020SEP03 210000 6.7 925.9 132.2 6.7 6.3 6.3 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 18.20 -74.66 EYE/L 35 IR 80.4 21.55 -135.59 ARCHER HIM-8 25.9
2020SEP03 211000 6.7 925.9 132.2 6.6 6.2 6.2 NO LIMIT ON OFF OFF OFF 18.23 -73.09 EYE/L 34 IR 80.4 21.56 -135.49 ARCHER HIM-8 25.9
2020SEP03 215000 6.7 925.9 132.2 6.5 6.2 6.2 NO LIMIT ON OFF OFF OFF 19.69 -73.40 EYE/L 34 IR 80.4 21.60 -135.50 ARCHER HIM-8 25.9
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#203 Postby Highteeld » Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:55 pm

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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#204 Postby Hayabusa » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:21 pm

If Haishen could maintain that eye for the next 12 hours or more then I can't wait for convection dmax.
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#205 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:38 pm

Similar to Genevieve, Haishen has had the bad luck of clearing its eye right at Dmin, meaning its CDO is getting warmed even more than it would have. The difference is that Haishen’s CDO is far more impressive and cooler than Genevieve’s ever was.
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#206 Postby Ed_2001 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:44 pm

11W HAISHEN 200904 0000 21.7N 135.4E WPAC 135 922

One step away from Category 5. WPAC finally showing its true color for the first time this year.
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#207 Postby Hayabusa » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:55 pm

Hmmm

TY 2010 (Haishen)
Issued at 00:45 UTC, 4 September 2020

<Analysis at 00 UTC, 4 September>
Scale -
Intensity Very strong
Center position N21°50' (21.8°)
E135°05' (135.1°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 15 km/h (8 kt)
Central pressure 925 hPa
Maximum wind speed near center 50 m/s (100 kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 70 m/s (140 kt)
≥ 50 kt wind area NE 220 km (120 NM)
SW 165 km (90 NM)
≥ 30 kt wind area NE 500 km (270 NM)
SW 440 km (240 NM)
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#208 Postby Cunxi Huang » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:58 pm

What.

CIMSS/NESDIS-USAF/NRL AMSU TC Intensity Estimation:
TYPHOON 11W
Thursday 03sep20 Time: 2135 UTC
Latitude: 21.55 Longitude: 135.26
Storm position corresponds to AMSU-A FOV 8 [1<--->30]
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| Estimated MSLP: 941 hPa
| Estimated Maximum Sustained Wind: 118 kts
| Estimate Confidence: Good ( +/- 9mb +/- 10kts )
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Channel 8 (~150 hPa) Tb Anomaly: 5.07471
Channel 7 (~250 hPa) Tb Anomaly: 4.488
RMW: 32 km
RMW Source is: MW
Environmental Pressure: 1008
Satellite: NOAA-19
ATCF data for Month: 09 Day: 03 Time (UTC): 1800

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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#209 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:12 pm

Fingers crossed the eye survives until Dmax so that extra bit of CDO cooling can get Haishen to Cat 5 status. We haven’t had one since Amphan in May.
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#210 Postby euro6208 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:12 pm

TPPN10 PGTW 040027

A. TYPHOON 11W (HAISHEN)

B. 04/0000Z

C. 21.70N

D. 135.10E

E. THREE/HMWRI8

F. T6.5/7.0/D1.5/24HRS STT: W0.5/03HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS/MSI

H. REMARKS: 11A/PBO RAGGED EYE/ANMTN. WMG EYE SURROUNDED BY B
YIELDS AN E# OF 5.5. ADDED 1.0 EYE ADJUSTMENT FOR B, TO YIELD A
DT OF 6.5. MET/PT AGREE. DBO DT.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS:
03/1934Z 21.28N 135.77E SSMS


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#212 Postby Hayabusa » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:20 pm

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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#213 Postby euro6208 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:32 pm

Although convection has warmed, eye remains extremely well defined. Personally this is a cat 5 already (145 to 155 knots) based on other similar systems.

Dvorak really lagging which is putting the estimates down.
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#214 Postby mrbagyo » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:36 pm

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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#215 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:37 pm

I’m comfortable with the 135 kt estimate the JTWC has given. It’s definitely a Super Typhoon, but it doesn’t seem like it’s quite worthy of Cat 5 status just yet. Haishen has to thicken that W ring.
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#216 Postby mrbagyo » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:57 pm

Poleward outflow is almost non-existent. Haishen needs that to truly max out
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#217 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:58 pm

mrbagyo wrote:Poleward outflow is almost non-existent. Haishen needs that to truly max out
https://i.imgur.com/u6TpYVd.gif

Does Haishen really need it? It seems to be ventilating very well; the eye is about to hit 20C according to the UW-CIMSS ADT page.
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#218 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:00 pm

aspen wrote:I’m comfortable with the 135 kt estimate the JTWC has given. It’s definitely a Super Typhoon, but it doesn’t seem like it’s quite worthy of Cat 5 status just yet. Haishen has to thicken that W ring.

Yeah I agree. They've done a nice job with this one so far. I bet it'll be 140 kts in the morning (US time)
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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#219 Postby mrbagyo » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:12 pm

aspen wrote:
mrbagyo wrote:Poleward outflow is almost non-existent. Haishen needs that to truly max out
https://i.imgur.com/u6TpYVd.gif

Does Haishen really need it? It seems to be ventilating very well; the eye is about to hit 20C according to the UW-CIMSS ADT page.


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Re: WPAC: HAISHEN - Typhoon

#220 Postby Hayabusa » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:25 pm

Cat 3 landfall :double:
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