ATL: ISAIAS - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2201 Postby BYG Jacob » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:43 pm

If I didn't know any better I'd, say his eye/proto eye was riding the north coast of the DR
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2202 Postby quaqualita » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:45 pm

reporting from North Cost DR, we have very strong winds here, sorry, don't have a wind meter, but would estimate at least 50 knts or more, much stronger than passing Cat 5s Irma and Maria 2 years ago. Very heavy rain, water blowing through very good sliding doors, quite insane, here nobody expected this from a 'only' TS!
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2203 Postby abk_0710 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:45 pm

chris_fit wrote:
abk_0710 wrote:If the ridge is not as strong as forecasted, what would be the furthest west this could go?

Ridge Stronger = More West
Ridge Weaker = More East/North


Gotcha! I was confused. So if the ridge is stronger, what is the furthest west it could go?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2204 Postby chaser1 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:46 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:Does a faster storm mean more west since it will beat the trough?


At a minimum, it would imply near term "status quo" as far as track direction. So, for now that would seem to imply continued WNW for the time being. Reduction in forward speed could suggest deepening, but most likely a potential gradual turn more to the NW might be about to commence
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2205 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:46 pm

abk_0710 wrote:
chris_fit wrote:
abk_0710 wrote:If the ridge is not as strong as forecasted, what would be the furthest west this could go?

Ridge Stronger = More West
Ridge Weaker = More East/North


Gotcha! I was confused. So if the ridge is stronger, what is the furthest west it could go?


I’d think key west to Tampa if stronger, a weaker ridge would keep it in the bahamas
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2206 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:46 pm

Hammy wrote:Center is definitely north of Hispaniola now--low cloud motion confirms this as most of the flow is out of the WNW or W.
for the new people here..this storm showed you that systems avoid land as we saw the center never really go over land and took advantage of the passage and we have also seen hispanola not disrupt the storm as much as it could...there is always talk about the high mountain of hispanol and eastern Cuba but you cant take assume there will be major effect...other times you can see major hurricanes get knocked down to a TS if they are slow movers..next up is what will happen once it gets into the Bahamas, they can intensify more than expected or not do much
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2207 Postby chaser1 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:48 pm

quaqualita wrote:reporting from North Cost DR, we have very strong winds here, sorry, don't have a wind meter, but would estimate at least 50 knts or more, much stronger than passing Cat 5s Irma and Maria 2 years ago. Very heavy rain, water blowing through very good sliding doors, quite insane, here nobody expected this from a 'only' TS!


Wow?! Thanks for the report. Stay safe!! Sounds to me like further confirmation of the LLC having reformed to the N. Coast there
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#2208 Postby cp79 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:49 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
abk_0710 wrote:
chris_fit wrote:Ridge Stronger = More West
Ridge Weaker = More East/North


Gotcha! I was confused. So if the ridge is stronger, what is the furthest west it could go?


I’d think key west to Tampa if stronger, a weaker ridge would keep it in the bahamas


I think Tampa is looking safe but don’t want to say for sure yet. Just trending that way. It’s trucking, though, and when storms move this fast you never know.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2209 Postby Rincoin » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:52 pm

Reporting from West Coast PR (Rincon) Lots of flooding on West Side of island -- Some of those bands set up shop and really hammered us on this side. -- Much more wind yesterday afternoon and evening but a Very large flooding impact here overnight and into this morning-- Measured 6.5 inches of rain here at house since midnight alonehttps://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IRINCN6 A lot of water and flooding reported. Stay safe everyone.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2210 Postby chaser1 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:54 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:
Blown Away wrote:https://i.imgur.com/dhtqlo1.gif
LLC feature riding the N coast @19.5N/70W... Looks like Isaias is moving faster, supposed to pass 71.4 at 8pm, might be sooner?


Timing is EVERYTHING HERE. A faster storm may bring it closer to the coast because it will beat the trough that is supposed to weaken the ridge. The next 12 hours are CRITICAL in determining the future track and intensity of Isaias.


Ugh, thanks for putting out there exactly what was echoing in my head as I sit and watch this thing race westward lol
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2211 Postby chaser1 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:56 pm

Rincoin wrote:Reporting from West Coast PR (Rincon) Lots of flooding on West Side of island -- Some of those bands set up shop and really hammered us on this side. -- Much more wind yesterday afternoon and evening but a Very large flooding impact here overnight and into this morning-- Measured 6.5 inches of rain here at house since midnight alonehttps://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IRINCN6 A lot of water and flooding reported. Stay safe everyone.


That's a lot of rain! Stay safe!
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2212 Postby alan1961 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:57 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
alan1961 wrote:If you animate a close up of the storm you can see the centre emerge of the coast of DR
and skirt along the north where i have marked.

https://img.techpowerup.org/200730/isasias.jpg


all in the mid levels..

east winds are shooting out the west side if the convection all day.. cant have a closed surface circ with east winds blowing through it.


Mid levels?..my head can't reach in that far to see..haha :lol: :lol: ..i get ya Aric..cheers :wink:
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2213 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:01 pm

INIT 30/1500Z 18.1N 68.9W 50 KT 60 MPH
12H 31/0000Z 19.7N 71.4W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND


Above is from 11am prediction, the pace Isaias is moving he will pass 71.4W well before 0000z. He might pass 19.7 to the N to.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2214 Postby Camerooski » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:03 pm

Pressure may be substantially lower than the NHC has it. :eek:

https://twitter.com/webberweather/statu ... 52416?s=20
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2215 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:06 pm

Camerooski wrote:Pressure may be substantially lower than the NHC has it. :eek:

https://twitter.com/webberweather/statu ... 52416?s=20


Damn, looks like it could be close to hurricane strength based on that, but would go 70mph once sampled
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2216 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:12 pm

How interesting. The last few loops it appears that the mountains collapsed a feeder band. Yet, at the end of the collapse there is an area of deep convection.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2217 Postby sma10 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:12 pm

Camerooski wrote:Pressure may be substantially lower than the NHC has it. :eek:

https://twitter.com/webberweather/statu ... 52416?s=20


Well, so much for the shredder doing it's job this time
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2218 Postby Camerooski » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:13 pm

I think this is going to be more of a Carolina threat than a FL east coast threat, but I would really love to have the recon upper air sampling data in the models ASAP. Let's say they find a stronger ridge -- impacts begin in S FL on Sat/Sun... not much time to prepare.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2219 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:15 pm

Camerooski wrote:I think this is going to be more of a Carolina threat than a FL east coast threat, but I would really love to have the recon upper air sampling data in the models ASAP. Let's say they find a stronger ridge -- impacts begin in S FL on Sat/Sun... not much time to prepare.
landfall on anglins pier, watch :eek:
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2220 Postby sma10 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:16 pm

Camerooski wrote:I think this is going to be more of a Carolina threat than a FL east coast threat, but I would really love to have the recon upper air sampling data in the models ASAP. Let's say they find a stronger ridge -- impacts begin in S FL on Sat/Sun... not much time to prepare.


This besides the fact that the average error 72hrs out is 100 miles which is ~ 1.5 degrees of longitide in either direction
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