ATL: DELTA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2561 Postby Blown Away » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:38 pm

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Amazing how hurricane tracks seem to cluster in certain areas season to season... SW Louisiana has one of the lowest hurricane return periods in the basin... (2) in a couple weeks is amazing...
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2562 Postby Rail Dawg » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:43 pm

Was a weather-guesser back in the days of hand-plotting charts and having to manually track satellites to get a grainy shot lol.

The NHC nailed this. Let's compare back to the 1900 Hurricane and the warnings they got.

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2563 Postby MBryant » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:44 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
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Nuno wrote:
Of course, I'm not trying to downplay Delta as a nothingburger, but Ike this isn't. Hopefully the damage is minimal

Sure this storm isn't as strong as others we have seen recently. But this is a Cat 2 hitting the same areas that were just hit by a Cat 4 less than 2 months ago... Just because it's not a major or an Ike does not mean it's not going be destructive...
especially if you have a blue tarp on your roof

You mean blue kites?
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2564 Postby Boutwas » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:49 pm

New live feed link from Lake Arthur - lost the last stream

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2565 Postby Blinhart » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:55 pm

So far at my house we have gotten 3 inches of rain, and gusts to probably 40, but steady 25 right now.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2566 Postby LARanger » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:58 pm

MBryant wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:especially if you have a blue tarp on your roof

You mean blue kites?


May one be carried high aloft into the anticyclonic flow and land in a few days as debris in your yard, shredding into little hard-to-pick-up pieces as it comes down.

Having thus been viciously cursed with the voodoo, you may return to your previous activities. ;-)
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2567 Postby Blown Away » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:59 pm

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Northern eyewall about to come onshore....
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2568 Postby LARanger » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:07 pm

Boutwas wrote:Winds are pretty calm maybe 40-50 MPH


Such a Louisiana-hurricane-season way to phrase that. Chicago folks are just nodding along, too.

On the east side of BR we're starting to get some relatatively stout gusts. Rain has been minimal since last night, which is of course when I had to drive through the lie of yellow (that was red- or purple-level rain in reality . . . I lost sight of the road at the end of my hood multiple times and forded a small new river at the end of 110.)
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2569 Postby gfsperpendicular » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:07 pm

dukeblue219 wrote:
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chris_fit wrote:Fantastic job on Intensity NHC on this one.

Edit: And Track - Again all around NHC Wins.


I mean I agree that the NHC is great but why use this storm as an example? The original advisory had it landfalling on Cuba and peaking in the Gulf right before landfall as a Category 2 in extreme SE LA.


A week ago? I mean, even that is pretty impressive accuracy compared to 10 years ago, much less 30 years ago. It wasn't that long ago storms like this would end up four states off and the response would be that beyond 72 hours it was really just a guess.

We're getting to a point that hurricanes don't make shocking, unforecast turns any more.*

*adding this asterisk to point out that I'm not a meteorologist and nobody should let their guard down


Okay, and like I said, the NHC isgreat. However, it wasn't a week, and it isn't 2010, and it definitely isn't 1990. By the modern day NHC's standards, this was a well-below average performance. Not that it was their fault, they simply followed the models. I doubt the NHC forecasters are celebrating a forecast that succumbed to intensity errors up to 5x the 2015-2019 average and tracks well outside the cones from 2-3 days before. To reiterate, the NHC has been fantastic this year, but this storm is not why.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2570 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:08 pm

Landfall intensity should be near or at 80kts based on recon

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2571 Postby LARanger » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:14 pm

Stormgodess wrote:Either in the Delta update, or the Traffic update on WGNO 99,5 New Orleans... The guy reporting said blown over by winds ?? I dont know if he was correct or not. Just shared what was said

Easier to blow one over that's curving, one would think . . . so maybe everybody's right.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2572 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:19 pm

If nothing changes, I would set the landfall intensity at 80 kt. That would be based on Recon supporting 85 kt + continued weakening.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2573 Postby mpic » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:41 pm

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2574 Postby sphelps8681 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:43 pm

We have been getting pretty hammered here in extreme East Tx and a local met is blaming it on the laziness of the storm for not making that east turn. This was on a live broadcast. Come on!!
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2575 Postby wxman57 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:53 pm

Southern side of Delta looking quite ragged on satellite & radar now. Definitely weakening. Cat 1 landfall.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2576 Postby PandaCitrus » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:59 pm

This is probably going to be a nuisance storm to most people with minimal structural damage. The population centers are 30 miles inland so it's possible they will only see strong tropical storm winds inland and some hurricane gusts. The major concern is Lake Charles. It's a sea of blue tarps and damaged leaking roofs. 50 to 70mph winds and relentless rain for hours has got to be a major setback to the recovery.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2577 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:01 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:This is probably going to be a nuisance storm to most people with minimal structural damage. The population centers are 30 miles inland so it's possible they will only see strong tropical storm winds inland and some hurricane gusts. The major concern is Lake Charles. It's a sea of blue tarps and damaged leaking roofs. 50 to 70mph winds and relentless rain for hours has got to be a major setback to the recovery.

Yeah the main issue with this storm is the fact that it's hitting the areas hit by Laura. If it wasn't for that, it would be mostly just a nuisance storm
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2578 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:23 pm

Weather Dude wrote:
PandaCitrus wrote:This is probably going to be a nuisance storm to most people with minimal structural damage. The population centers are 30 miles inland so it's possible they will only see strong tropical storm winds inland and some hurricane gusts. The major concern is Lake Charles. It's a sea of blue tarps and damaged leaking roofs. 50 to 70mph winds and relentless rain for hours has got to be a major setback to the recovery.

Yeah the main issue with this storm is the fact that it's hitting the areas hit by Laura. If it wasn't for that, it would be mostly just a nuisance storm


Yeah, although even a category 1 storm can do significant damage with tree damage and flooding. There will still be widespread tree damage and power outages.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2579 Postby Steve » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:32 pm

Some decent gusts here in New Orleans. Sustained 20+ and we are maybe 180-200 miles east of landfall. There’s a dry band coming through so that makes sense.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2580 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:45 pm

The highest radar echoes I can find are about 95 kt at 8,000 feet. That lines up well with an intensity of 80 kt, especially since Recon showed that winds were not mixing as efficiently.
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