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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#321 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:06 pm

cycloneye wrote:
97L INVEST 200819 1800 14.1N 73.4W ATL 30 1008


...4, 3....

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#322 Postby Frank P » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:10 pm

sure looks like a depression to me or very close to it, hints of inflow from every quadrant on the system per the vis sat loops...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#323 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:19 pm

Me thinky we go 80/80 at 8pm.

Convection starting to increase even more.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#324 Postby aspen » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:20 pm

I marked up the most recent Western Atlantic SST map from Tropical Tidbits with the likely locations of both 98L and 97L through 96-120 hours. The location I marked for 97L will likely be where it is between 36 and 96 hours out. SSTs are absolutely phenomenal, especially on the eastern edge of the area I marked, but land interaction and a likely landfall in the Yucutan Peninsula will probably contribute to keeping this in check.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#325 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:23 pm

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE (97L)

B. 19/1730Z

C. 14.2N

D. 71.9W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T1.0/1.0

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...>2/10 BANDING WAS MEASURED AROUND THE LLCC YIELDING A DT
OF 1.0. THE MET AND PT AGREE AND THE FT IS BASED ON THE DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#326 Postby tailgater » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:34 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#327 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:37 pm

aspen wrote:I marked up the most recent Western Atlantic SST map from Tropical Tidbits with the likely locations of both 98L and 97L through 96-120 hours. The location I marked for 97L will likely be where it is between 36 and 96 hours out. SSTs are absolutely phenomenal, especially on the eastern edge of the area I marked, but land interaction and a likely landfall in the Yucutan Peninsula will probably contribute to keeping this in check.
https://i.imgur.com/qOWpiub.png


I remember seeing a few low-grade TC's either go across the Yucatan unscathed or even strengthen a bit.
I think it depends of the structure of the warm-core.
If the cold pocket under the warm-core is displaced and over water, then the air parcels still take advantage of maximum updraft.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#328 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:38 pm

18z Best Track:

At 1800 UTC, 19 August 2020, LOW INVEST 97 (AL97) was located in the North Atlantic basin at 14.1°N and 73.4°W. The current intensity was 30 kt and the center was moving at 16 kt at a bearing of 280 degrees. The minimum central pressure was 1008 mb.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#329 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:38 pm



Looks like its just about to get a shot of heavy-duty juice from the EPAC.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#330 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:41 pm

Naked swirl on the coast just popped its cork.
A good sign high TPW air is coming into the area.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#331 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:53 pm

GCANE wrote:Naked swirl on the coast just popped its cork.
A good sign high TPW air is coming into the area.


That is some heavy-duty juice, extreme rain-rate with that burst over the swirl.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#332 Postby Buck » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:08 pm

Wow those are some cold cloud tops already and its only got warmer water in its path.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#333 Postby caneseddy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:13 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#334 Postby Frank P » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:14 pm

Sure looks to me like it’s starting to gain a little latitude as it moves thru the Caribbean
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#335 Postby wx98 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:23 pm

Frank P wrote:Sure looks to me like it’s starting to gain a little latitude as it moves thru the Caribbean

Definitely a WNW to NW motion moving generally toward Cancún.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#336 Postby tailgater » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:26 pm



I guess I need to go microwave reading school I would have thought that Sw inflow was pretty decent, Nw maybe questionable, looks a little elliptical shaped to me.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#337 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:56 pm

tailgater wrote:


I guess I need to go microwave reading school I would have thought that Sw inflow was pretty decent, Nw maybe questionable, looks a little elliptical shaped to me.


there is SW inflow...

question is what level..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#338 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:29 pm

tailgater wrote:


I guess I need to go microwave reading school I would have thought that Sw inflow was pretty decent, Nw maybe questionable, looks a little elliptical shaped to me.


For a developing TD, I am not expecting this to have a closed eyewall.

Those cells are pretty hot pink though.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#339 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:36 pm

I saw a north wind reported earlier at Kingston Intl. Northeast winds are currently being reported at Montego Bay.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Discussion

#340 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:58 pm

That outflow from Genevieve is like a fire hose aimed into the GoM.
Crashing into the west Yucatan and creating a sh.tstorm.
West Cuba firing up as well.
Flowing into the W Carib.

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