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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#321 Postby EquusStorm » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:33 pm

There isn't much of a positive here, a track further south would probably keep it 'only' a major briefly but plow into and flood areas devastated by Eta, and a track further north could be even stronger for whoever gets hit. Climo shows no major hurricane, or even hurricane at all, that far northwest in the Caribbean this late in the year.

Just step back and think for a moment, we're talking about Hurricane Iota, the second major hurricane of November, affecting areas devastated by 130kt November Hurricane Eta. I know this season has normalized a lot of crazy crap, but we're getting major hurricanes past where we've ever gotten in the Greek list in any previous season... in the Caribbean... in November... heading west under August-like ridging.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#322 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:35 pm

EquusStorm wrote:There isn't much of a positive here, a track further south would probably keep it 'only' a major briefly but plow into and flood areas devastated by Eta, and a track further north could be even stronger for whoever gets hit. Climo shows no major hurricane, or even hurricane at all, that far northwest in the Caribbean this late in the year.

Just step back and think for a moment, we're talking about Hurricane Iota, the second major hurricane of November, affecting areas devastated by 130kt November Hurricane Eta. I know this season has normalized a lot of crazy crap, but we're getting major hurricanes past where we've ever gotten in the Greek list in any previous season... in the Caribbean... in November... heading west under August-like ridging.


There has never been a single November with two major hurricanes before. Nor have there ever been four major hurricanes in October-November before.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#323 Postby kevin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:40 pm

EquusStorm wrote:There isn't much of a positive here, a track further south would probably keep it 'only' a major briefly but plow into and flood areas devastated by Eta, and a track further north could be even stronger for whoever gets hit. Climo shows no major hurricane, or even hurricane at all, that far northwest in the Caribbean this late in the year.

Just step back and think for a moment, we're talking about Hurricane Iota, the second major hurricane of November, affecting areas devastated by 130kt November Hurricane Eta. I know this season has normalized a lot of crazy crap, but we're getting major hurricanes past where we've ever gotten in the Greek list in any previous season... in the Caribbean... in November... heading west under August-like ridging.


Imagine if 2021 becomes an average or below average season, it's gonna feel so weird. This season has really normalized the idea that it's 'normal' to have 1 or 2 new storms every week. If I'm being honest I wasn't even that surprised or shocked when I saw the crazy Iota runs starting to appear in the models. And that's not because this is a normal situation, it's everything but normal. But this season has just been so ridiculous that I almost feel desensitized to new information at this point.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#324 Postby gfsperpendicular » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:41 pm

Eta and Iota from this November could ruin expectations for future Novembers just like Dennis and Emily did for July.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#325 Postby aspen » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:56 pm

Looks like the models are honing in on the Nicaragua-Honduras border, further south from the previous consensus due to the southward center shift. The CMC and the HWRF are the only two that have actually shifted north. A more southern track will mean less time over water, but that water is up to 29.5C with MPIs of <900 mbar, and Iota will be heading right for Eta Ground Zero.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#326 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:30 pm

This feature has been there for hours, I'm still thinking it's not an eye feature.

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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#327 Postby lrak » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:31 pm

Not been keeping up with the weather lately and reading all this is terrible. :(
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#328 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:32 pm

How is the cool pool? And is Iota stacked?
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#329 Postby Do_For_Love » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:40 pm

Yeah I mean I just wanna chime in as well and say that what's happening here is incredible. I mean we will see how Iota develops but the fact we might be looking at another November major is really remarkable. 2020 might be the GOAT late season.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#330 Postby beachnut » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:04 pm

It may a GOAT but let's hope it's not also a MOAB, since we're using acronyms :wink: Sure hate to see Honduras or the Bay Islands get devastated like Mitch. Been to Roatan several times and Belize. A co-worker owns property there. But the rain and mudslides and loss of life, it would be very sad.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#331 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:25 pm

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Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Tropical Storm Iota

30-12-5

For reference, the 2020 season is more active than most WPAC seasons.

https://i.imgur.com/W333MqK.jpg


Only if you only look at named storms. 2020 is well behind an average NW Pacific season in terms of hurricanes, intense hurricanes, and ACE, which tells you something about just how active the NW Pacific basin is.


Very true.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#332 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:15 pm

Iota has not moved in the last 30 frames
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#333 Postby cycloneye » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:43 pm

No change.

31L IOTA 201114 0000 13.7N 74.1W ATL 35 1006
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#334 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:43 pm

Very long loop of Iota to show how much it moved if at all

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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#335 Postby aspen » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:50 pm

Iceresistance wrote:Very long loop of Iota to show how much it moved if at all

https://s8.gifyu.com/images/Iota-is-not-moving.gif

Wow, 8 hours and practically no movement. I think this might be due to the MLC and LLC trying to stack. This temporary stalling could delay landfall by some amount.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#336 Postby galaxy401 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:53 pm

Yeah I noticed in the loops that Iota has barely moved at all. Wonder if that will have track ramifications or not.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#337 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:00 pm

aspen wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:Very long loop of Iota to show how much it moved if at all

https://s8.gifyu.com/images/Iota-is-not-moving.gif

Wow, 8 hours and practically no movement. I think this might be due to the MLC and LLC trying to stack. This temporary stalling could delay landfall by some amount.

And make it stronger :eek:
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#338 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:03 pm

galaxy401 wrote:Yeah I noticed in the loops that Iota has barely moved at all. Wonder if that will have track ramifications or not.

Very likely in the 9 PM adivsory
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#339 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:11 pm

gfsperpendicular wrote:Eta and Iota from this November could ruin expectations for future Novembers just like Dennis and Emily did for July.


July 2005 and November 2020 are anomalies.
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Re: ATL: IOTA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#340 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:16 pm

NHC: Image

Iota: I have other ideas :slime:

Me: Just like Eta, Iota will defy forecasters in very strange ways.
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