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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#41 Postby HurricaneBrain » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:30 am

TVCN with a Freeport landfall. Agreed recon needs to fly into this today regardless of improvement of structure. Need data inserted into the globals.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#42 Postby SoupBone » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:32 am

The Euro wants to bring some really heavy rains into the Corpus Christi area now, up to 12". Yesterday, it was focused mor on San Antonio.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#43 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:39 am

Here's some updated 12z stuff from the mesoscale models

12Z HRRR @ 36 hours / Tomorrow night at 7pm
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12Z 3km NAM @ 48 hours / 7am Friday
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#44 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:46 am

ICON is in and it stalls it around the coast of Texas hence a couple spots in South Texas over 12" of rain. We'll see if the GFS catches up or insists no more than a half inch or so.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#45 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:49 am

GFS through 66 hours doesn't even have any 2" amounts onshore. Still not buying this.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#46 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:06 am

Canadian is more similar to the ICON, NAM and EC than the GFS. This is through 120 hours / 7pm Sunday.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#47 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:26 pm

The 12Z Euro actually strengthens this close to landfall and then over land. That is a sign this could become something as the last minute as it makes landfall.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#48 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:26 pm

Euro is drunk. 1003mb -> 991mb over land.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#49 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:26 pm

Strengthening over South Texas :roll:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#50 Postby Hammy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:57 pm

Nice to see Euro jumping on board as model support rapidly increases, GFS is the only holdout now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#51 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:24 pm

Is it April Fools Day? I mean really, the EURO
is in la la land with strengthening over land thing.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#52 Postby Portastorm » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:28 pm

As Houston-area met Matt Lanza just pointed out on Twitter, the conditions necessary for a "Brown Ocean" effect will not be in play in South Texas. That makes the Euro scenario even more improbable.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#53 Postby SoupBone » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:35 pm

The EURO's rainfall forecast is not good for the Corpus Christi area.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#54 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:43 pm

LOL. Usually systems deepen overland when moving north and undergoing baroclinic processes. However, I wouldn't discount the idea of a better environment slightly inland and moving west of suppression. I don't think it would drop 10mb, more like 1-2. HRRR 18z is running, and I'll have that up in a few minutes.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#55 Postby jaguars_22 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:46 pm

HRRR slows down the forward motion once it nears the coast or so it seems... I guess recon isnt flying today
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#56 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:59 pm

Yeah, that's been a theme with some of the models showing a slow crawl west near to or at the coast. Here's HRRR valid 1am Friday

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#57 Postby Hammy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:07 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Is it April Fools Day? I mean really, the EURO
is in la la land with strengthening over land thing.


It does that often for some reason.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#58 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:17 pm

Hammy wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Is it April Fools Day? I mean really, the EURO
is in la la land with strengthening over land thing.


It does that often for some reason.


I agree! I’ve seen the Euro do that many times. Not sure why it does that?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#59 Postby Steve » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:19 pm

NAM 3km @ 27 hours / 4pm tomorrow

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I'm thinking it might have it over-organized, though Thursday seemed like the day we'd get the most change (upgrade) in organization
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#60 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:33 pm

I'm not sure how well the Parallel GFS is verifying and this run is 24 hours old(but the latest), but it's showing the potential for a strong feeder band east of the storm around the Louisiana and Mississippi border. Could be interesting to see if any other models picks up on that.

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