ATL: LAURA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8819
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4261 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:14 pm

When is the next recon flight expected to take off?
0 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

User avatar
Highteeld
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2139
Age: 41
Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:10 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4262 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:15 pm

The spiral banding around the LLC looks more complete than it did an hour ago. Pressure probably falling, around 985-986 if i had to guess.
1 likes   
Very useful information on the Dvorak Technique --

https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf

jlauderdal
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 7184
Joined: Wed May 19, 2004 5:46 am
Location: NE Fort Lauderdale
Contact:

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4263 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:16 pm

SconnieCane wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
sponger wrote:Time for model runs! I would give a fiver to take a peak at this afternoon's FSU ensemble! This is the time where the track really firms up and this 5pm update is the most critical since Michael and Dorian.
we know where its going...less than 75 miles either side of the NHC line...getting in the time frame where NHC is superior to the models, they can fine tune far better than nay model at this range


Ah but the problem is that 75 miles makes an enormous difference in the size of the population potentially impacted, and the logistics of evacuations that goes along with that.
Thats correct which is why anyone in a watch/warning area needs to take the recommended action from localofficials, only the seasoned "professional" should go off the script and do their own thing especially in a major which this one will be
1 likes   

User avatar
WmE
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 696
Age: 36
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:23 am
Location: Vienna, Austria

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4264 Postby WmE » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:19 pm

Looks like a banding eye is forming. That would make it T4.0 or T4.5 right?
0 likes   

supercane4867
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4966
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:43 am

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4265 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:20 pm

WmE wrote:Looks like a banding eye is forming. That would make it T4.0 or T4.5 right?

SAB is still at T3.5 for 18z
0 likes   

jconsor
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 552
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:31 pm
Location: Jerusalem, Israel
Contact:

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4266 Postby jconsor » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:21 pm

Tomorrow (especially afternoon onward) is most likely timeframe when we see rapid intensification begin for Laura.

 https://twitter.com/yconsor/status/1298322158213627908


Last edited by jconsor on Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2 likes   

User avatar
Hurrilurker
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 719
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 3:32 pm
Location: San Francisco, CA

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4267 Postby Hurrilurker » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:23 pm

So the "perfect" environment that was supposed to be there doesn't look so perfect after all. Laura is battling cooler SSTs, dry air, and shear all at the same time.
2 likes   

tolakram
Admin
Admin
Posts: 20012
Age: 62
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:23 pm
Location: Florence, KY (name is Mark)

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4268 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:25 pm

3 likes   
M a r k
- - - - -
Join us in chat: Storm2K Chatroom Invite. Android and IOS apps also available.

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. Posts are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.org. For official information and forecasts, please refer to NHC and NWS products.

wx98
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1383
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:24 pm

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4269 Postby wx98 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:27 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:So the "perfect" environment that was supposed to be there doesn't look so perfect after all. Laura is battling cooler SSTs, dry air, and shear all at the same time.

Shear and SST are not really much of a factor. The SST/OHC/TCHP are more than sufficient. Shear is lessening as we speak.
7 likes   

User avatar
tiger_deF
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 468
Age: 24
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:47 am

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4270 Postby tiger_deF » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:28 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:So the "perfect" environment that was supposed to be there doesn't look so perfect after all. Laura is battling cooler SSTs, dry air, and shear all at the same time.


To be fair a cool eddy 28 C waters and 12 kt of shear over the center isn't going to seriously impede strengthening. Dry air is present but it doesn't seem to be entrained
4 likes   

wx98
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1383
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:24 pm

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4271 Postby wx98 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:29 pm

aspen wrote:When is the next recon flight expected to take off?

AF plane takes off at 3:30 CDT and NOAA goes at 4 CDT.
1 likes   

wx98
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1383
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:24 pm

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4272 Postby wx98 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:31 pm

UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 9.0
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 25 AUG 2020 Time : 175020 UTC
Lat : 24:14:23 N Lon : 87:28:48 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.3 / 989.4mb/ 51.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
3.3 3.6 3.7

Center Temp : -59.1C Cloud Region Temp : -66.1C
1 likes   

Evan_Wilson
Tropical Low
Tropical Low
Posts: 25
Joined: Tue May 26, 2020 1:09 pm

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4273 Postby Evan_Wilson » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:31 pm

I’ve been seeing some chatter about possible interaction between Laura and the Jet Stream this weekend making for some very strong winds inland into the South East. Definitely something to keep an eye on.
0 likes   

User avatar
Buck
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1173
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:04 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4274 Postby Buck » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:31 pm

For everyone implying that because Laura hasn't started to undergo a RI phase and calling for landfall intensity (and location) estimates to be adjusted, remember that Wilma went from 70 mph to 175 mph in exactly 24 hours not far from here and Laura still has ~36 hours before striking the coast. Not saying we will see a repeat in terms of rapid intensification, but this is essentially the same as "wobble watching" but for intensity instead.
8 likes   

User avatar
jasons2k
Storm2k Executive
Storm2k Executive
Posts: 8245
Age: 51
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:32 pm
Location: The Woodlands, TX

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4275 Postby jasons2k » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:32 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:And also on the MIMIC the classic "fist" formed and will wrap and as it has it can picked up moisture feeding from Epac and Marco remnants also the frontal boundary. As the outflow is also improving, we will likely see an full grown hurricane on the way to major by late tonight. Gosh I hope from Galveston to LA you all are ready.

https://tinyurl.com/y2sffhy2

I see - the “fist” has made its appearance. We usually see this in the overnight hours, not heading into DMIN. She seems well on her way to building the pieces to allow RI as we get into tonight & tomorrow.
6 likes   

User avatar
Buck
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1173
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:04 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4276 Postby Buck » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:33 pm

Hurrilurker wrote:So the "perfect" environment that was supposed to be there doesn't look so perfect after all. Laura is battling cooler SSTs, dry air, and shear all at the same time.


So many posts like this and they are all speaking too soon.
17 likes   

User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8819
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4277 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:34 pm

wx98 wrote:
aspen wrote:When is the next recon flight expected to take off?

AF plane takes off at 3:30 CDT and NOAA goes at 4 CDT.

So the AF plane should be taking off pretty soon.
0 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

catskillfire51
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 480
Age: 38
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:40 pm
Location: Lake Jackson, TX

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4278 Postby catskillfire51 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:35 pm

aspen wrote:
wx98 wrote:
aspen wrote:When is the next recon flight expected to take off?

AF plane takes off at 3:30 CDT and NOAA goes at 4 CDT.

So the AF plane should be taking off pretty soon.

in 2 hours
0 likes   

User avatar
tailgater
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3339
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:13 pm
Location: St. Amant La.

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4279 Postby tailgater » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:35 pm

KWT wrote:A more northerly motion is possibly an optical illusion caused by a decrease in shear from the north which is allowing it to pull convection northwards and westwards where it had been previously weak. Also this is backed by better outflow being evident now on the northern side.

Would be good to see what the inner core is doing.


The last 6 hrs. Has seen it move more NW than WNW according to the NHC points but it is probably is just reacting to the deeper convection rotating around the center
1 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

ronyan
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 791
Age: 39
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:46 pm
Location: Lake Jackson, TX

Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4280 Postby ronyan » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:36 pm

This is just a casual observation (and may not be correct) but doesn't it seem like we've had a relative lack of the large sized systems in the last several years? Seems like everything now has these small tight cores. Is there any knowledge about what causes to be large/small in the basin and the related factors?
4 likes   


Return to “2020”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 32 guests