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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4761 Postby FixySLN » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:46 pm

HoustonFrog wrote:Very interesting reading y’all’s takes on west/north movements. Curious how the west movement stacks up against expectations



Not going to lie, there was a few minutes there where I didn't think the Western Turn was gonna' happen. If it MOVES north again...NOT WOBBLES...There's something funky going down. I'm...worried?...that Laura might do something unsuspecting here.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4762 Postby HurricaneEdouard » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:47 pm

p1nheadlarry wrote:
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Hammy wrote:
Matthew was Cat 4 in Haiti if I remember.

Think he’s talking about Irma and Maria of ‘17, Michael of ‘18 and Dorian of ‘19


Maria was a high-end 4 in PR as well. 155 mph. Not that it really matters at that point. But yes Irma was.

Maria was a landfalling Category 5 hurricane; it struck Dominica at that strength, weakened to 4, then restrengthened to 5.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4764 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:50 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Hammy wrote:
BYG Jacob wrote:We've had 3 straight year of category 5 hurricanes, all of them except for Lorenzo made landfall at some point as a category 5


Matthew was Cat 4 in Haiti if I remember.

Think he’s talking about Irma and Maria of ‘17, Michael of ‘18 and Dorian of ‘19


2018-19 seem like they're running together into one year in my memory. :oops:
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4765 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:50 pm

FixySLN wrote:
HoustonFrog wrote:Very interesting reading y’all’s takes on west/north movements. Curious how the west movement stacks up against expectations



Not going to lie, there was a few minutes there where I didn't think the Western Turn was gonna' happen. If it MOVES north again...NOT WOBBLES...There's something funky going down. I'm...worried?...that Laura might do something unsuspecting here.



I feel that way every time one is headed straight at Florida. Despite know full well that the HP ridge ends at the Bahamas I still stare at it thinking “it’s headed right at me!”. I think it’s natural
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4766 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:51 pm

Rapid deepening right now. Down 1.5 mb in the last 70 minutes.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4767 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:52 pm

Highteeld wrote:Pressure down to around 977.9 mb, dropsonde wind-adjusted

https://i.imgur.com/g8cpzXy.png


Was that a center pass?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4768 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:52 pm

Hurricane force wind field has expanded quite a lot.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4769 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:53 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
Highteeld wrote:Pressure down to around 977.9 mb, dropsonde wind-adjusted

https://i.imgur.com/g8cpzXy.png


Was that a center pass?


Dropsonde.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4770 Postby KC7NEC » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:53 pm

If any of you have ever heard of the Waffle House Index its now Code Red which means locations in coastal TX/LA are closing.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4771 Postby AnnularCane » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:54 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Wobble watching is a great past time of ours. It still looks wnw to me on this view

https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES16/ABI/GIFS/GOES16-GM-07-1000x1000.gif?hash=29491



That's an amazing loop. Seeing those colors just pop up like that is mesmerizing.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4772 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:54 pm

Also down 5.2 mb in the last 2 hour 38 min. Deepening at a rate of around 1.97mb/hr over the last few passes.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4773 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:55 pm

KC7NEC wrote:If any of you have ever heard of the Waffle House Index its now Code Red which means locations in coastal TX/LA are closing.


I saw Cantore at a Waffle House in boynton beach. When they close that means it’s serious.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4774 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:56 pm

Highteeld wrote:Also down 5.2 mb in the last 2 hour 38 min. Deepening at a rate of around 1.97mb/hr over the last few passes.


I doubt that rate is sustainable but even at 1mb an hour we’re looking at a 955mb storm tomorrow night. I hope it’s not sustainable. Could it be?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4775 Postby supercane4867 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:57 pm

cfisher wrote:Laura is outpacing HWRF intensity by quite a bit. At 03z HWRF has Laura at 986 and she's already sub 980. Has a landfall at 945mb
https://ibb.co/6vhQYfM

HWRF likes to overreact on weak tropical storms by intensifying them into 930-940mb CAT4s but that's about it. In fact it underestimates strong systems just as much as it exaggerates weak ones. None of the HWRF runs have predicted the peak intensities of Michael, Dorian, and Irma before they bombed out to CAT5s.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4776 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:59 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Wobble watching is a great past time of ours. It still looks wnw to me on this view

https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES16/ABI/GIFS/GOES16-GM-07-1000x1000.gif?hash=29491



That's an amazing loop. Seeing those colors just pop up like that is mesmerizing.



It really is beautiful, amazing and terrifying all at once. Look at this one, you can just see the blood red convection fly through the storm and flow right around the center. The evolution of this thing since it left Cuba is something to watch in awe.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4777 Postby KC7NEC » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:59 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
KC7NEC wrote:If any of you have ever heard of the Waffle House Index its now Code Red which means locations in coastal TX/LA are closing.


I saw Cantore at a Waffle House in boynton beach. When they close that means it’s serious.


It started years ago almost a joke by the FEMA administrator at the time Craig Fugate but has actually been developed and turned into a quasi-offial metric from storm damage or potential severity.

Waffle House Index
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4778 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:59 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
Highteeld wrote:Also down 5.2 mb in the last 2 hour 38 min. Deepening at a rate of around 1.97mb/hr over the last few passes.


I doubt that rate is sustainable but even at 1mb an hour we’re looking at a 955mb storm tomorrow night. I hope it’s not sustainable. Could it be?

depends on how large the eye is by then. a larger eye is equivalent to a larger column of air within the eyewall that has to be heated to induce pressure falls. therefore, a smaller eye can drop pressure faster. with an eye this large, i wouldn't think so, though
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4779 Postby Keldeo1997 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:00 pm

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Dual Outflow channels coming in hot
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