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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4901 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:57 pm

Actually I should've looked at the entire picture before making my statement. There's clearly flow coming in from the SW but it's interrupted off the Yucatan. Carry on :D
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4902 Postby Hurricane Mike » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:59 pm

Midnight video update on Hurricane Laura
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4903 Postby sponger » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:00 pm

Saying the term annular here is like dropping an f bomb at church. While vis does not indicate, the IR definately looks ish by definition. Limited Banding.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4904 Postby Beef Stew » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:02 pm

Highteeld wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:
DocB wrote:You are correct. Typhoon Haitian was never truly annular. But did have a very annular appearance other than the convective banding. I guess my point is that Laura is not even close to symmetrical.

Foregoing the impacts to humans and property, I wish she had another 24 hours under these conditions to see what Mother Nature is capable of.

After a couple of EWRCs, I could easily see Laura going annular in the Gulf.


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Laura will in no way have time for multiple EWRCs. And that's not something to wish for if it had another 24 hrs...

Florence did 2 at the same time though lol


Florence loved to replace eyewalls more than Laura's loved land interaction...

Anyhow, that's quite an impressive spell of hot towers she's firing off in the last few satellite frames. Pressure isn't going to stop falling like a brick any time soon.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4905 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:03 pm

Not sure if this tweet was posted but the warm waters in the Western Gulf don’t extend below the surface. Of course considering that Laura is moving and not forecasted to stall it shouldn’t be much of a problem though it could limit its intensity potential.

 https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1298423100095299585


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4906 Postby DocB » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:05 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Actually I should've looked at the entire picture before making my statement. There's clearly flow coming in from the SW but it's interrupted off the Yucatan. Carry on :D
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In defense of your statement though... she’s got the right stuff. Just not enough time. She does look like a storm that could attain that status if given the opportunity.


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4907 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:05 pm

Beef Stew wrote:
Highteeld wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:
Laura will in no way have time for multiple EWRCs. And that's not something to wish for if it had another 24 hrs...

Florence did 2 at the same time though lol


Florence loved to change eyewalls more than Laura's loved land interaction...

Anyhow, that's quite an impressive spell of hot towers she's firing in the last few satellite frames. Pressure isn't going to stop falling like a brick any time soon.

With 4 hot towers going off at the same time around a broken eyewall, it should fill in the gaps shortly. I think the eyewall is completed in about 2-3 hours. Thereafter, the true "RI" that everyone wants to see will occur.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4908 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:06 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Not sure if this tweet was posted but the warm waters in the Western Gulf don’t extend below the surface. Of course considering that Laura is moving and not forecasted to stall it shouldn’t be much of a problem though it could limit its intensity potential.

[url]https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1298423100095299585[url]

I swear this might be the 3rd or 4th OHC graphic I've seen in the past 48 hours. All of them show something different.
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#4909 Postby cfisher » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:06 pm

What's stopping this from bombing out like Patricia once the eye clears?
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#4910 Postby DestinHurricane » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:06 pm

cfisher wrote:What's stopping this from bombing out like Patricia once the eye clears?


land. That kind of intensification within this amount of time is not really physically possible. It would need more time over water.
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#4911 Postby cfisher » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:08 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:
cfisher wrote:What's stopping this from bombing out like Patricia once the eye clears?


land

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4912 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:10 pm

cfisher wrote:What's stopping this from bombing out like Patricia once the eye clears?

Whats stopping this from rivaling the strongest storm in the western hemisphere? A lot.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4913 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:10 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
cfisher wrote:What's stopping this from bombing out like Patricia once the eye clears?

Whats stopping this from rivaling the strongest storm in the western hemisphere? A lot.

The size of the eye is the biggest limiting factor.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4914 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:11 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Not sure if this tweet was posted but the warm waters in the Western Gulf don’t extend below the surface. Of course considering that Laura is moving and not forecasted to stall it shouldn’t be much of a problem though it could limit its intensity potential.

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1298423100095299585


Is that even possible for the water to be cooled from Hannah at this point? I don’t doubt the waters are cooler but I find it hard to believe it’s from Hannah.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4915 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:14 pm

Highteeld wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:
cfisher wrote:What's stopping this from bombing out like Patricia once the eye clears?

Whats stopping this from rivaling the strongest storm in the western hemisphere? A lot.

The size of the eye is the biggest limiting factor.

OHC, time, broad structure, southern inflow being modified by the Yucatan to name a few. I am pretty sure neither the rate of intensification, nor the intensity, is even physically possible in the gulf.
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#4916 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:15 pm

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#4917 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:16 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Not sure if this tweet was posted but the warm waters in the Western Gulf don’t extend below the surface. Of course considering that Laura is moving and not forecasted to stall it shouldn’t be much of a problem though it could limit its intensity potential.

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1298423100095299585


Is that even possible for the water to be cooled from Hannah at this point? I don’t doubt the waters are cooler but I find it hard to believe it’s from Hannah.

Eric Webb says it is.

 https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1298424415080910851




 https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1298426422147547136


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4918 Postby NotoSans » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:16 pm

Laura looks like a standard T5.0 on the Dvorak scale now, so wouldn’t be surprised to see recon finding category 2 winds. Once the eye begins to clear out, intensification would be more rapid. Personally won’t rule out a category 4 peak near the Gulf coast.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4919 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:18 pm

I'm starting to wonder if we will ever see the eye or if it will always be covered up with clouds up until landfall.....
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4920 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:19 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Not sure if this tweet was posted but the warm waters in the Western Gulf don’t extend below the surface. Of course considering that Laura is moving and not forecasted to stall it shouldn’t be much of a problem though it could limit its intensity potential.

https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1298423100095299585


Is that even possible for the water to be cooled from Hannah at this point? I don’t doubt the waters are cooler but I find it hard to believe it’s from Hannah.

Eric Webb says it is.



https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1298424415080910851




I see that but I’d like some other Mets opinion on it. I asked a few weeks ago if something like that was possible and I was told no for a smaller weaker hurricane. Basically they said it would have to be a big major that was in the same area for a while to have a long term effect beyond a week or so.
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