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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#821 Postby OuterBanker » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:57 am

This years GFS is like covid 19.

Wear a mask and stay at least 6 feet away.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#822 Postby SFLcane » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:02 am

No 06z runs yet but it’s interesting how the HWRF is strengthening 92L now in the Bahamas.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#823 Postby DestinHurricane » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:05 am

SFLcane wrote:No 06z runs yet but it’s interesting how the HWRF is strengthening 92L now in the Bahamas.

https://iili.io/dAYAas.jpg


Its the HWRF, what else is it supposed to do?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#824 Postby SFLcane » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:06 am

DestinHurricane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:No 06z runs yet but it’s interesting how the HWRF is strengthening 92L now in the Bahamas.

https://iili.io/dAYAas.jpg


Its the HWRF, what else is it supposed to do?


It had sheared blob last couple of runs also plenty of dry air.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#825 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:11 am

SFLcane wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:No 06z runs yet but it’s interesting how the HWRF is strengthening 92L now in the Bahamas.

https://iili.io/dAYAas.jpg


Its the HWRF, what else is it supposed to do?


It had sheared blob last couple of runs also plenty of dry air.


HWRF has been doing far better than the globals this year..
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#826 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:25 am

DestinHurricane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:No 06z runs yet but it’s interesting how the HWRF is strengthening 92L now in the Bahamas.

https://iili.io/dAYAas.jpg


Its the HWRF, what else is it supposed to do?
Thats true about hwrf because thats what its default is..i would wxpect the other models to start showing a more intense system, conditions will be favorable and if it stays off the dr coast with minimal inflow issues, watch out
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#827 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:25 am

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06z NAVGEM
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#828 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:26 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:
Its the HWRF, what else is it supposed to do?


It had sheared blob last couple of runs also plenty of dry air.


HWRF has been doing far better than the globals this year..
The bar has been low with the gfs and euro, that will change..the hwrf had its day, thats in the past, it can score some wins but beware
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#829 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:27 am

Not far from Hurricane strength.

6z EURO

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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#830 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:30 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Not far from Hurricane strength.

6z EURO

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Thats a major hurrican path for se florida, needs to stay away from dr
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#831 Postby Ritzcraker » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:33 am

Seems like another classic case of “model over did the trough” this isn’t really a surprise...
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#832 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:34 am

jlauderdal wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Not far from Hurricane strength.

6z EURO

https://i.ibb.co/xzf1VyV/Capture.png
Thats a major hurrican path for se florida, needs to stay away from dr


Also, that is 3 days away, 92L is flying, things could go 0-60 real fast today...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#833 Postby NDG » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:37 am

I smell a track similar to Irma 2017 in the future.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#834 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:38 am

Ritzcraker wrote:Seems like another classic case of “model over did the trough” this isn’t really a surprise...


I have been saying since the models started showing recurve..

that cut off low/trough over the central US and Ohio valley.

does not exist it is spawned from a system that exists over canada leaving behind energy..

Typically I call it .. "The Models Phantom Trough Syndrom" :P
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#835 Postby Shell Mound » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:39 am

NDG wrote:I smell a track similar to Irma 2017 in the future.

https://i.imgur.com/HbZLdJv.gif

The EPS has not yet finished trending slower and deeper with the shortwave trough over the past six runs, so 92L could end up tracking farther W* than Irma.

*Farther W before curving northward

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#836 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:45 am

NDG wrote:I smell a track similar to Irma 2017 in the future.

https://i.imgur.com/HbZLdJv.gif


Narrow ridge extends into the North Florida area to the Northeast GOM on this particular EURO run. This likelywould take the potential Isaias on.a path into Florida.

Also the trough is hanging farther back over the the Mississippi Valley on this run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#837 Postby NDG » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:50 am

Shell Mound wrote:
NDG wrote:I smell a track similar to Irma 2017 in the future.

https://i.imgur.com/HbZLdJv.gif

The EPS has not yet finished trending slower and deeper with the shortwave trough over the past six runs, so 92L could end up tracking farther W* than Irma.

*Farther W before curving northward

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/1903_Atlantic_hurricane_3_track.png/440px-1903_Atlantic_hurricane_3_track.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/1926_Miami_hurricane_track.png/440px-1926_Miami_hurricane_track.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/1935_Labor_Day_hurricane_track.png/440px-1935_Labor_Day_hurricane_track.png
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It may get into the far eastern GOM but not that far as the first image. The EPS has been trending towards a deeper trough in the MS river valley but with still a strong Bermuda ridge to get it to threaten FL.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#838 Postby SconnieCane » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:52 am

USTropics wrote:The 00z GFS-para forecast shows what a well-organized system with enhanced diabatic outflow can do:
https://i.ibb.co/QFkb38s/gfsp-z850-vort-atl-fh0-180.gif


Hugo, is that you? :double:

That NAVGEM run is also eerily similar...over PR to the Bahamas and into the Carolinas (although if I remember correctly, Hugo mostly missed the Bahamas to the east, taking a more direct NW track from PR to SC).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#839 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:00 am

NDG wrote:
Shell Mound wrote:
NDG wrote:I smell a track similar to Irma 2017 in the future.

https://i.imgur.com/HbZLdJv.gif

The EPS has not yet finished trending slower and deeper with the shortwave trough over the past six runs, so 92L could end up tracking farther W* than Irma.

*Farther W before curving northward

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/1903_Atlantic_hurricane_3_track.png/440px-1903_Atlantic_hurricane_3_track.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/1926_Miami_hurricane_track.png/440px-1926_Miami_hurricane_track.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/1935_Labor_Day_hurricane_track.png/440px-1935_Labor_Day_hurricane_track.png
All images from Wikipedia


It may get into the far eastern GOM but not that far as the first image. The EPS has been trending towards a deeper trough in the MS river valley but with still a strong Bermuda ridge to get it to threaten FL.

https://i.imgur.com/iv5n51u.gif



Yes NDG, that is pretty much right. I just gave a similar assessment earlier
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#840 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:05 am

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12z... It's worth noting the TVCN spends @2 days slowly moving over E Central Florida... Still moderate TS or Cat 1 at the high end...
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