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ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#901 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:25 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#902 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:25 pm

SFLcane wrote:Oh boy HWRF... big shift north


Wow, that’s over 100 miles N of 12z at 72 hours...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#903 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:25 pm

SFLcane wrote:Oh boy HWRF... big shift north


The shift is probably because it’s making it so strong. But will it be out to sea strong?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#904 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:27 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Oh boy HWRF... big shift north


The shift is probably because it’s making it so strong. But will it be out to sea strong?


Correction it is stronger...

This has the feel of one of those HWRF CAT 7 Runs... :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#905 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:32 pm

HWRF looks to go north of Hispanola. Rest of the run probably wont end well.....

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#906 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:36 pm

There are shifts.. but the same general track and synoptic set up and ridging are the same.

the track shifts are due to short term motion variations from interactions with the vorts well to the SW and just normal rotational wobbles during formational stages.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#907 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:41 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:There are shifts.. but the same general track and synoptic set up and ridging are the same.

the track shifts are due to short term motion variations from interactions with the vorts well to the SW and just normal rotational wobbles during formational stages.


Shifts the can determine whether we tracking a batch of showers or a hurricane in the Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#908 Postby USTropics » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:42 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
THe 12z Euro gave it the "ol college try" at 12z with a close in sharper vort then we have seen recently but to no avail.


The 12z euro ensembles showed a big uptick in members showing tropical storms/hurricanes compared to the previous two runs. The Parallel GFS ensembles have been bullish as well. It will be frustrating/disappointing to see if the operational Euro and GFS whiff so bad on genesis, but what a coup if the euro is right.



The parallel is really interesting as it sees a big weakness and sends 98l to the Carolinas


That's actually a different system (the 10/40% highlighted from NHC) near the coast of Africa that makes landfall in the Carolinas. 98L cuts through Caribbean and moves south of Cuba, following a similar path to 97L:
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As others have stated on here earlier the globals will struggle until we have an established center. Dorian last season is a great example. An underforecasted center reformation to the north allowed for the system to avoid major interaction with GA. Still a wide array of possibilities with 98L, and the ensembles provide a better "overall" picture (if you were needing to create a forecast today).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#909 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:43 pm

Continuing WNW theough the Bahamas

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#910 Postby caneseddy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:43 pm

HMON Cat 3 heading toward Andros. I think we likely know what will be the endgame most likely
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#911 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:44 pm

18z HWRF is more than 120 miles N of 12z...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#912 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:44 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:There are shifts.. but the same general track and synoptic set up and ridging are the same.

the track shifts are due to short term motion variations from interactions with the vorts well to the SW and just normal rotational wobbles during formational stages.


Shifts the can determine whether we tracking a batch of showers or a hurricane in the Bahamas.


Yes, but people are constantly posting asking if its going to recurve. so saying there is a "huge shift" is misleading to some that follow the forums.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#913 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:45 pm

Here is the HMON for reference

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#914 Postby DestinHurricane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:52 pm

HMON wants to party like it's 1992 :eek: Image
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#915 Postby caneseddy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:52 pm

HMON ends run with a 945mb major hurricane heading for Southern Dade and extreme upper Keys on Tuesday
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#916 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:53 pm

Hwrf closing on Florida

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#917 Postby SconnieCane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:55 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:HMON wants to party like it's 1992 :eek: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hmon/2020081918/hmon_ref_98L_42.png


Is that on the anniversary?

EDIT: And the HWRF agrees. Don't know if I've seen the two main operational globals and the hurricane models be so many worlds apart from each other.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#918 Postby caneseddy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:55 pm

SconnieCane wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:HMON wants to party like it's 1992 :eek: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hmon/2020081918/hmon_ref_98L_42.png


Is that on the anniversary?


the day after.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#919 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:55 pm

18z HWRF 111hrs... @180 mile N shift from 12z... Wow, the model was pretty consistent through the big islands into Cuba waivering a few miles here and there...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#920 Postby DestinHurricane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:56 pm

SconnieCane wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:HMON wants to party like it's 1992 :eek: https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hmon/2020081918/hmon_ref_98L_42.png


Is that on the anniversary?


Day after but still eerie.
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