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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#101 Postby aspen » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:25 pm

The HWRF is up to its old tricks with a 960s Cat 2/3 in the Caribbean. It has very minimal gain in latitude for 95L until the last moment, when it’s like “you know what screw Haiti” and suddenly 95L takes a sharp turn north, making landfall as a 90-95 kt Cat 2.

The main takeaway from this run is that if 95L gains latitude much more slowly than the GFS/Euro show and it makes it into the Caribbean without hitting the GAs, then it could have the opportunity to become significant. The same would probably be true if it stays north of the big islands instead of south.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#102 Postby IcyTundra » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:26 pm

At the end of the 12Z HWRF 92L barely clips the southern tip of the DR and looks like it will make landfall in Western Haiti.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#103 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:38 pm

12z ECMF - a few less member, and a few less yellow members
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latest spaghetti - GEFS plus globals plus OFCL
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#104 Postby aspen » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:18 pm

18z GFS has a stronger vortex, and it misses Hispaniola with 95L tracking north into the Bahamas once it reaches Puerto Rico.

By 7-9 days out, 95L gets strung out over the Bahamas, suggesting shear might be present at the time (shear forecasts on the models, as we all know, are rather unreliable more than a few days out). The GFS is probably overdoing the effects of shear due to not having a well-developed TC at that time and location.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#105 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:42 pm

18Z HWRF loses Fred and loses 95L.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#106 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:52 pm

Check out the monster high pressure and 50kts winds at 200mb in 126 hours. This is partly ripping up 95L. What is that?

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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#107 Postby aspen » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:07 pm

tolakram wrote:18Z HWRF loses Fred and loses 95L.

Seems like the 18z HWRF is playing Where’s Waldo with the two systems and failing miserably. Given how poorly it initialized Fred, I’m guessing all of the 18z HWRF runs are problematic.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#108 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:36 pm

tolakram wrote:Check out the monster high pressure and 50kts winds at 200mb in 126 hours. This is partly ripping up 95L. What is that?

https://i.imgur.com/Ien0RrC.png


Not sure but here is the corresponding shear chart. Looks hostile across the Bahamas and SW Atlantic. This is only 5 days from now so certainly possible:

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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#109 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:00 pm

00z GFS coming in a good bit stronger through 72 hours.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#110 Postby lsuhurricane » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:00 pm

Signs of life on this GFS run….lookout

Ridging off the Carolinas keeps a strengthening hurricane stalled east of the Bahamas. This run is sure to open some eyeballs
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#111 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:18 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:Signs of life on this GFS run….lookout

Ridging off the Carolinas keeps a strengthening hurricane stalled east of the Bahamas. This run is sure to open some eyeballs


That's until the 06z run drops it entirely lol
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#112 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:25 pm

The 0z GFS run is literally like a weaker version of Dorian. Freeport and Great Abaco almost certainly do not need this.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#113 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:35 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:The 0z GFS run is literally like a weaker version of Dorian. Freeport and Great Abaco almost certainly do not need this.

Some potential tracks this year literally mimic Dorian's "what if" scenario had it kept going west, so hopefully we don't see that come into play this early in the season.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#114 Postby IcyTundra » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:35 pm

GFS stalls 95L near the Bahamas and it just keeps strengthing down to 946 MB.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#115 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:38 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
lsuhurricane wrote:Signs of life on this GFS run….lookout

Ridging off the Carolinas keeps a strengthening hurricane stalled east of the Bahamas. This run is sure to open some eyeballs


That's until the 06z run drops it entirely lol

Can't drop it once it develops.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#116 Postby Fancy1001 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:42 pm

This run just seems to be asking what if Dorian went to the Carolinas at full strength
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#117 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:44 pm

My thoughts on the GFS is wow and hopefully Florida keeps its guard up because that’s a serious hurricane in that location and not far from the east coast
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#118 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:46 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:My thoughts on the GFS is wow and hopefully Florida keeps its guard up because that’s a serious hurricane in that location and not far from the east coast

That would likely be a cat 5... and with that track, I am more worried about the Bahamas who just took the bullet for us in 2019.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#119 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:46 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:Signs of life on this GFS run….lookout

Ridging off the Carolinas keeps a strengthening hurricane stalled east of the Bahamas. This run is sure to open some eyeballs


Verbatim is very close ridge wise to being a nasty hit for Florida to the Carolinas
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#120 Postby caneseddy » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:47 pm

944 min on the GFS heading towards Outer Banks


Icon says blob into South Florida but has a developing storm SE of Bermuda
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