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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#141 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:08 pm

IR presentation degrading with all those overshooting tops. Hard to get anything more than a 4.5-5.0 on Dvorak. Eye looks to be east of track. Might buy it more time to ramp up before landfall.
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#142 Postby grapealcoholic » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:10 pm

The convection will wrap it's only a matter of time
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#143 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:16 pm

Vertical hot tower on the northwest is overshooting the eye. Likely back down to T4.5 for now.
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#144 Postby supercane4867 » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:17 pm

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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#145 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:18 pm

Looks like it's attempting to clear the eye out again:
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#146 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:19 pm

BD loop at least seems to imply a NNE wobble. San Jose del Cabo might be ground zero if it were to keep it up hypothetically but it’ll probably resume its general NNW motion at around 325.
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#147 Postby grapealcoholic » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:24 pm

Eye just rapidly warmed
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#148 Postby sikkar » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:37 pm

Looking at live cams, there are still people swimming and relaxing :lol: .
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#149 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:38 pm

sikkar wrote:Looking at live cams, there are still people swimming and relaxing :lol: .

They're about to get smacked with 100mph winds soon.
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#150 Postby Teban54 » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:42 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
sikkar wrote:Looking at live cams, there are still people swimming and relaxing :lol: .

They're about to get smacked with 100mph winds soon.

Obviously I don't hope this will happen, but I wonder if Olaf will end up bad enough in deaths or damages to warrant retirement just due to lack of preparations alone.
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#151 Postby sikkar » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:43 pm

I guess many were taken off guard track wise.
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#152 Postby grapealcoholic » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:46 pm

ADT is going to spike to like 6.5 when it wraps
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#153 Postby Astromanía » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:48 pm

sikkar wrote:Looking at live cams, there are still people swimming and relaxing :lol: .

And then everybody wonder why there are fatalities
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#154 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:50 pm

Teban54 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
sikkar wrote:Looking at live cams, there are still people swimming and relaxing :lol: .

They're about to get smacked with 100mph winds soon.

Obviously I don't hope this will happen, but I wonder if Olaf will end up bad enough in deaths or damages to warrant retirement just due to lack of preparations alone.


Probably not, given this is weaker and smaller than Odile and isn’t supposed to bring a prolonged period of heavy rain. A Cat 2 hitting San Jose del Cabo unexpectedly will cause some problems but I’m not expecting a historical hurricane.
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#155 Postby grapealcoholic » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:52 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Teban54 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:They're about to get smacked with 100mph winds soon.

Obviously I don't hope this will happen, but I wonder if Olaf will end up bad enough in deaths or damages to warrant retirement just due to lack of preparations alone.


Probably not, given this is weaker and smaller than Odile and isn’t supposed to bring a prolonged period of heavy rain. A Cat 2 hitting San Jose del Cabo unexpectedly will cause some problems but I’m not expecting a historical hurricane.

Cat 2 seems optimistic
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#156 Postby Astromanía » Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:55 pm

Teban54 wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
sikkar wrote:Looking at live cams, there are still people swimming and relaxing :lol: .

They're about to get smacked with 100mph winds soon.

Obviously I don't hope this will happen, but I wonder if Olaf will end up bad enough in deaths or damages to warrant retirement just due to lack of preparations alone.

If it happens it will be just due to the lack of preparation just as Odile. Odile had a relatively low death toll (18 in total) but the area was just destroyed letting thousands of people without water and power for months and the economic lost was horrible, but Odile was a major and this is not
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#157 Postby sikkar » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:00 pm

Olaf just got blessed with the mesoscale loop just in time.
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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#158 Postby sikkar » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:04 pm

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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#159 Postby grapealcoholic » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:07 pm

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Re: EPAC: OLAF - Hurricane

#160 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:08 pm

Current Intensity Analysis





UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 9.0
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 09 SEP 2021 Time : 222031 UTC
Lat : 22:32:59 N Lon : 109:03:00 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
4.7 / 970.3mb/ 82.2kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
4.7 4.7 5.4

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR :N/A km

Center Temp : -34.1C Cloud Region Temp : -65.0C

Scene Type : EYE

Subtropical Adjustment : OFF

Extratropical Adjustment : OFF

Positioning Method : ARCHER POSITIONING

Ocean Basin : EAST PACIFIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : CKZ Method

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : MW ON
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF


Josh might get a Cat.3
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