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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1961 Postby Teban54 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:13 am

Pressure is still falling quickly between recon passes, despite the less than ideal IR appearance especially in terms of cloud tops temperatures. :double:
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1962 Postby wx98 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:13 am

82 kt FL on east side
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1963 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:13 am

Dean4Storms wrote:Is it just my eyes or did Ida move a bit more NNW last few frames?


Definite northward wobble the last 30-45 minutes. It has been paralleling 86W. Could wobble back west, but any extended northward wobble means business for Nola.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1964 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:13 am

hohnywx wrote:
Weather Dude wrote:982.1mb extrap on AF plane


A bit of a drop since the last time.

To be honest though these pressure readings from the plane have been a bit off compared to the dropsondes for some reason. Best to wait for confirmation from that.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1965 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:14 am

wx98 wrote:TWC and some local Mets starting to preach the intensity guidance, most of which is Cat 2/low end Cat 3. Hope that doesn’t bust…

Intensity forecasting is difficult for the nhc, why in the world would we put much stock into TWC and local forecasters, they should stay in their lane and stick to the basics.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1966 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:14 am

wx98 wrote:TWC and some local Mets starting to preach the intensity guidance, most of which is Cat 2/low end Cat 3. Hope that doesn’t bust…


NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1967 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:14 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
hohnywx wrote:
Weather Dude wrote:982.1mb extrap on AF plane


A bit of a drop since the last time.

To be honest though these pressure readings from the plane have been a bit off compared to the dropsondes for some reason. Best to wait for confirmation from that.

The AF plane was pretty spot on last pass. The NOAA plane was a bit high last time but it looks like it missed the center this time.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1968 Postby aspen » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:16 am

Seems like intensification might be kicking in. Pressure is down a few mbar between passes from the same plane for the first time today, there are now multiple expanding hot towers around the eye again, and banding is improving in the southern part of the storm.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1969 Postby skyline385 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:17 am

Winds are lagging but that core is deepening pretty decently...
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1970 Postby toad strangler » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:17 am

CDO is tiny
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1971 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:19 am

Weather Dude wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:
hohnywx wrote:
A bit of a drop since the last time.

To be honest though these pressure readings from the plane have been a bit off compared to the dropsondes for some reason. Best to wait for confirmation from that.

The AF plane was pretty spot on last pass. The NOAA plane was a bit high last time but it looks like it missed the center this time.

Yeah...Miss Piggy (NOAA) had an 82kt wind at 925mb
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1972 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:19 am

jlauderdal wrote:
hohnywx wrote:
MississippiWx wrote:I must be missing something. Ida dropped 2-3mb in one pass and continues to improve. I’m not sure what some of you are expecting to find already. Lol.


They expect it to go from Cat 1 to 4 in 2.5 hours this morning. Come on. :lol:

Who expects it to go from a 1 to a 4 this morning?


There were some people on social media and S2K who were thinking that its temporary stall in RI meant conditions were not as favorable as once thought, but then again this is not another Wilma of course, and Dorian had two RI phases, with a small stall in between. So I still do not see anything that is very much hindering Ida sadly.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1973 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:20 am

AF plane is showing that the winds are up considerably on the NW side since the last pass
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1974 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:20 am

skyline385 wrote:Winds are lagging but that core is deepening pretty decently...


Winds are actually a lot stronger in the NW quadrant than the previous pass through it.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1975 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:20 am

Has to be a bit of shear coming in from the south otherwise I'd think we'd have already seen some eye clearing.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1976 Postby Kohlecane » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:20 am

TheDreamTraveler wrote:
wx98 wrote:TWC and some local Mets starting to preach the intensity guidance, most of which is Cat 2/low end Cat 3. Hope that doesn’t bust…


NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far

:uarrow: Dr. Postel also said this could be a short term trend and has the ability to change, in other words don't bait n hook quite yet
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1977 Postby otowntiger » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:22 am

TheDreamTraveler wrote:
wx98 wrote:TWC and some local Mets starting to preach the intensity guidance, most of which is Cat 2/low end Cat 3. Hope that doesn’t bust…


NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far

I think that will change, if not with this upcoming advisory, the next. The NHC forecast had it at 100 mph by 8:00 this morning. It’s definitely now behind schedule. I still believe it RI’s but it simply going to run out of time to get to a 4, in my opinion.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1978 Postby skyline385 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:23 am

There seems to be a little warm spot forming between the rotating eyewalls. Pressures dont support an eye but there is something going on there...

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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1979 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:23 am

otowntiger wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
wx98 wrote:TWC and some local Mets starting to preach the intensity guidance, most of which is Cat 2/low end Cat 3. Hope that doesn’t bust…


NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far

I think that will change, if not with this upcoming advisory, the next. The NHC forecast had it at 100 mph by 8:00 this morning. It’s definitely now behind schedule. I still believe it RI’s but it simply going to run out of time to get to a 4, in my opinion.

The 4am advisory doesn't have it getting to 100mph until this afternoon and still gets it to 140mph at landfall
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1980 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:25 am

Definitely see some shear affecting ida as you can see there’s no banding on the sw side of the storm. Did notice intensity guidance is coming down to a cat 3 hopefully that trend continues.
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