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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1981 Postby tomatkins » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:25 am

Clearcloudz wrote:
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Clearcloudz wrote:Take a look at the Evacuation Traffic from New Orleans


Securing potential debris so pardon me for short messages, but St. Charles Parish (west of NO) at least is under mandatory evac which may explain some traffic observed as well.


I'm hearing that gas stations are dry all over the region, it that's they case hopefully people stuck in traffic don't run out of it.


After the Rita situation in Houston, I think the general consensus is that these kind of mass evacuations hurt more than they help. Evacuating a small town is one thing. But evacuating a million person metro is bound to leave alot of people more vulnerable than they might have been had they stayed in their neighborhood and went to the local gym or other sturdy structure.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1982 Postby Highteeld » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:25 am

Pressure down a bit. Finally doing something other than look pretty
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1983 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:25 am

Eye drop supports 984mb so pressure dropping a bit, will drop more once those towers wrap around
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1984 Postby Meteorcane » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:26 am

Center warming rapidly on IR, suspect a legit eye on conventional satellite imagery is imminent (an eye already exists per the plane and microwave, but we will see it soon on visible and IR).
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1985 Postby SunnyThoughts » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:26 am

otowntiger wrote:
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wx98 wrote:TWC and some local Mets starting to preach the intensity guidance, most of which is Cat 2/low end Cat 3. Hope that doesn’t bust…


NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far

I think that will change, if not with this upcoming advisory, the next. The NHC forecast had it at 100 mph by 8:00 this morning. It’s definitely now behind schedule. I still believe it RI’s but it simply going to run out of time to get to a 4, in my opinion.


I agree. I think it runs out of time for a 4. I hope we are correct.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1986 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:26 am

otowntiger wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
wx98 wrote:TWC and some local Mets starting to preach the intensity guidance, most of which is Cat 2/low end Cat 3. Hope that doesn’t bust…


NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far

I think that will change, if not with this upcoming advisory, the next. The NHC forecast had it at 100 mph by 8:00 this morning. It’s definitely now behind schedule. I still believe it RI’s but it simply going to run out of time to get to a 4, in my opinion.


Where is this coming from? 4AM CDT discussion:

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 28/0900Z 24.0N 85.2W 70 KT 80 MPH
12H 28/1800Z 25.4N 86.9W 85 KT 100 MPH
24H 29/0600Z 27.1N 88.9W 105 KT 120 MPH
36H 29/1800Z 28.6N 90.5W 120 KT 140 MPH
48H 30/0600Z 30.1N 91.3W 85 KT 100 MPH...INLAND


Am I calculating wrong?

18Z is 2PM Eastern, 3PM central. As of this posting the time is currently 14:26 UTC (Z)


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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1987 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:27 am

skyline385 wrote:There seems to be a little warm spot forming between the rotating eyewalls. Pressures dont support an eye but there is something going on there...

https://i.imgur.com/vGZKh8j.png


That is the perfect representation of 2 hot towers rotating to close off the eye. Exact same thing with Grace before liftoff.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1988 Postby ThetaE » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:27 am

NOAA dropsonde found 983 mb/16 kt. AF dropsonde got 985 mb/9 kt. Bit of a weird discrepancy, but the NOAA sonde makes more sense given the change in AF's extrapolated pressure.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1989 Postby USTropics » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:28 am

300+ frames of Hurricane Ida since landfall yesterday in Cuba:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/0upMlWdL_kU[/youtube]
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1990 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:28 am

Meteorcane wrote:Center warming rapidly on IR, suspect a legit eye on conventional satellite imagery is imminent (an eye already exists per the plane and microwave, but we will see it soon on visible and IR).


I suppose that means we now have an Eye Warning :D
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1991 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:29 am

Winds beginning to ramp up at buoy 42003.......https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at4
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1992 Postby Kohlecane » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:29 am

RGB/True color showing LL clouds expanding to the SW might just be temporary, but could be an early indication that shear dies off to its S IMO
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1993 Postby wx98 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:29 am

tolakram wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far

I think that will change, if not with this upcoming advisory, the next. The NHC forecast had it at 100 mph by 8:00 this morning. It’s definitely now behind schedule. I still believe it RI’s but it simply going to run out of time to get to a 4, in my opinion.


Where is this coming from? 4AM CDT discussion:

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 28/0900Z 24.0N 85.2W 70 KT 80 MPH
12H 28/1800Z 25.4N 86.9W 85 KT 100 MPH
24H 29/0600Z 27.1N 88.9W 105 KT 120 MPH
36H 29/1800Z 28.6N 90.5W 120 KT 140 MPH
48H 30/0600Z 30.1N 91.3W 85 KT 100 MPH...INLAND


Am I calculating wrong?

18Z is 2PM Eastern, 3PM central. As of this posting the time is currently 14:26 UTC (Z)


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18z is actually 1 pm Central :P
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1994 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:30 am

tolakram wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far

I think that will change, if not with this upcoming advisory, the next. The NHC forecast had it at 100 mph by 8:00 this morning. It’s definitely now behind schedule. I still believe it RI’s but it simply going to run out of time to get to a 4, in my opinion.


Where is this coming from? 4AM CDT discussion:

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 28/0900Z 24.0N 85.2W 70 KT 80 MPH
12H 28/1800Z 25.4N 86.9W 85 KT 100 MPH
24H 29/0600Z 27.1N 88.9W 105 KT 120 MPH
36H 29/1800Z 28.6N 90.5W 120 KT 140 MPH
48H 30/0600Z 30.1N 91.3W 85 KT 100 MPH...INLAND


Am I calculating wrong?

18Z is 2PM Eastern, 3PM central. As of this posting the time is currently 14:26 UTC (Z)


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https://i.imgur.com/SxUtFy0.gif

Actually 2pm Eastern 1pm Central

Current UTC time is 2:31 (-4 for Eastern)
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1995 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:31 am

Ida looks very healthy right now with what looks to be an eye trying to form and vertical swirling hot towers. I'm still personally not sure where some are getting the idea that it is underperforming; even if it is I'm pretty sure with the environment it is expected to be in (especially thermodynamically directly over the Loop Current), I cannot see why it would continue to underperform.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1996 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:31 am

tolakram wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far

I think that will change, if not with this upcoming advisory, the next. The NHC forecast had it at 100 mph by 8:00 this morning. It’s definitely now behind schedule. I still believe it RI’s but it simply going to run out of time to get to a 4, in my opinion.


Where is this coming from? 4AM CDT discussion:

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 28/0900Z 24.0N 85.2W 70 KT 80 MPH
12H 28/1800Z 25.4N 86.9W 85 KT 100 MPH
24H 29/0600Z 27.1N 88.9W 105 KT 120 MPH
36H 29/1800Z 28.6N 90.5W 120 KT 140 MPH
48H 30/0600Z 30.1N 91.3W 85 KT 100 MPH...INLAND


Am I calculating wrong?

18Z is 2PM Eastern, 3PM central. As of this posting the time is currently 14:26 UTC (Z)


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https://i.imgur.com/SxUtFy0.gif


Yea, except 3pm est is 2pm cst.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1997 Postby skyline385 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:31 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
skyline385 wrote:There seems to be a little warm spot forming between the rotating eyewalls. Pressures dont support an eye but there is something going on there...

https://i.imgur.com/vGZKh8j.png


That is the perfect representation of 2 hot towers rotating to close off the eye. Exact same thing with Grace before liftoff.


Yea its continuing to get warmer so looks like it is an eye trying to clear up...

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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1998 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:31 am

The downcasting is absolutely comical. It’s like nobody watched Grace go from a TS to 125mph LAST WEEK. In under 24 hours. What’s also even worse, is to make statements like this when Ida is deepening as we speak.
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1999 Postby Kohlecane » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:31 am

tolakram wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
TheDreamTraveler wrote:
NHC has it as a category 4 before landfall and they're normally on the conservative side with intensity forecasts. Definitely see it getting that far

I think that will change, if not with this upcoming advisory, the next. The NHC forecast had it at 100 mph by 8:00 this morning. It’s definitely now behind schedule. I still believe it RI’s but it simply going to run out of time to get to a 4, in my opinion.


Where is this coming from? 4AM CDT discussion:

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 28/0900Z 24.0N 85.2W 70 KT 80 MPH
12H 28/1800Z 25.4N 86.9W 85 KT 100 MPH
24H 29/0600Z 27.1N 88.9W 105 KT 120 MPH
36H 29/1800Z 28.6N 90.5W 120 KT 140 MPH
48H 30/0600Z 30.1N 91.3W 85 KT 100 MPH...INLAND


Am I calculating wrong?

18Z is 2PM Eastern, 3PM central. As of this posting the time is currently 14:26 UTC (Z)


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https://i.imgur.com/SxUtFy0.gif

Sorry, but to everyone not understanding your earlier post...Exhibit A: :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2000 Postby ThetaE » Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:31 am

ThetaE wrote:NOAA dropsonde found 983 mb/16 kt. AF dropsonde got 985 mb/9 kt. Bit of a weird discrepancy, but the NOAA sonde makes more sense given the change in AF's extrapolated pressure.


Sorry-- that NOAA sonde is reported as "not reaching the surface." I dunno what happened to it, but it seems like 983 mb was the last reading.
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