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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#261 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:06 am

Not anything impressive with this one but you can't really expect much more than this for June. It'll be a close call on whether it can become a TD/TS before landfall but I think it will get there.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#262 Postby JW-_- » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:39 am

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#263 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:45 am

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#264 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:46 am

Nothing from recon since 30 min ago. May be a broad, weak swirl west of the convection near 26.5N / 91.6W. I think the plane could find some 35 kt winds in those squalls, but such winds are not circulating around any center.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#265 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:51 am

IMO getting much better organized with every passing hour.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#266 Postby aspen » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:54 am

wxman57 wrote:Nothing from recon since 30 min ago. May be a broad, weak swirl west of the convection near 26.5N / 91.6W. I think the plane could find some 35 kt winds in those squalls, but such winds are not circulating around any center.

Air Force recon transmission issues have returned to be a pain once again. I really hope we don’t see a repeat of Eta’s situation sometime this season.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#267 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:58 am

Closed circulation is probably present, and deep convection coverage has increased since yesterday. This might be classifiable now.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#268 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:59 am

Yellow Evan wrote:Closed circulation is probably present, and deep convection coverage has increased since yesterday. This might be classifiable now.


I'm trying to find an LLC on the high-res mesoscale loop at College of DuPage. I can see a trof axis, but no circulation. Would help if recon would report.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#269 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:01 am

Finally, a recon report. A broad, weak swirl around 26N/91.2W. 0-5 kts over a large area. No difference from yesterday afternoon.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#270 Postby JW-_- » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:03 am

Pretty much be gales anywhere there's convection in the gom. Needs this within radar range to sort out.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#271 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:12 am

Less than 10kt winds from 27.4N to 25.4N. Nothing outside of that convection, as far as wind.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#272 Postby Steve » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:14 am

Stormcenter wrote:IMO getting much better organized with every passing hour.


It sort of does. Storms are firing east and northeast of the general center. We have about 12-16 hours left until the center reaches the coast. It could make a run for TS (40 or so) as the 7:00am advisory notes sustained to 35 which is pretty much depression-level. I'd say it's 60/40 that it gets classified to TS at some point this afternoon. 06z mesoscale models like a last run at tightening right at landfall, so I'm going with them.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#273 Postby MississippiWx » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:18 am

wxman57 wrote:Finally, a recon report. A broad, weak swirl around 26N/91.2W. 0-5 kts over a large area. No difference from yesterday afternoon.


I’d argue it’s much less broad than yesterday which isn’t saying much. Seems to be improving by each frame. Convective organization is much more concentrated which helps as well in tightening the circulation. Minimal tropical storm still looks reasonable, but doesn’t matter other than adding a number to the list.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#274 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:21 am

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wxman57 wrote:Finally, a recon report. A broad, weak swirl around 26N/91.2W. 0-5 kts over a large area. No difference from yesterday afternoon.


I’d argue it’s much less broad than yesterday which isn’t saying much. Seems to be improving by each frame. Convective organization is much more concentrated which helps as well in tightening the circulation. Minimal tropical storm still looks reasonable, but doesn’t matter other than adding a number to the list.


My forecast has it a TS this evening, but mostly due to straight-line winds in squalls well east of the center. Nothing circulating around the center.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#275 Postby JW-_- » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:25 am

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Those 30kts on the image just above. the 24N line is where i thought the SW side of the vort was @ the time of the pass.


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the earlier pass had 30kt gales to SW of the mess.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#276 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:35 am

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#277 Postby tailgater » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:52 am

wxman57 wrote:Less than 10kt winds from 27.4N to 25.4N. Nothing outside of that convection, as far as wind.

Maybe something north of where they are looking now 27.5N 91W or maybe it never closes off.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#278 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:18 am

Per recon this is technically closed, so with that and the slow improvement in organization, I think this barely qualifies as a tropical cyclone.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#279 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:28 am

Yellow Evan wrote:Per recon this is technically closed, so with that and the slow improvement in organization, I think this barely qualifies as a tropical cyclone.


I don't think that a west wind of a few mph within a broad area of light winds over 100 miles across really qualifies as a "well-defined" low-level center. I would call it a disturbance until it has a tight center. Doesn't matter as far as impacts. The squalls could produce some straight-line winds to 40 mph, and they'll produce 6-8 inches of rain regardless of how this system is classified. We'll know in a few minutes if the NHC has seen enough to call it a depression. Certainly, no evidence of TS winds from recon. I'm seeing a couple 25-30 kt winds in the squalls well NE of the weak swirls.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#280 Postby Steve » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:36 am

Some dark grey clouds to the south here in Pensacola. Looks like the first little bit is coming up and through, then we'll have a break. It's the eastern edge of the band that went through New Orleans an hour or so ago. SELA and southern MS look to have the rainfall bullseyes on them based on current rotation.
https://radar.weather.gov/?settings=v1_ ... J1ZX0%3D#/

There's some rain. Also, look at the true color zoom-out from TT. Convection is blowing up in a banding style just east of 90W.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... =truecolor
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