ATL: IDA - Remnants - Discussion

[Kohlecane]

If both planes stopped at the same time in the same area it may be a search and rescue operation. Happened before…

Probably has no correlation but almost same time Noras plane did a loop and finished

[supercane4867]

Fortunately it won't take long for another plane to fly into Ida. Not so much for Eta back then

[tolakram]

Drop in the eye is now showing nearly complete saturation.
CAPE has backed off a little to 3000

CAPE does not matter

You seem certain, can you back that up so we can all understand why?

[hipshot]

I feel for those in Slidell and along the MS coast also. This storm will affect many.

ROLL TIDE!!!

I have a friend that lived in Slidell during Katrina, what a mess. He moved to Mandeville on the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain. I just checked
with them yesterday and they are staying as are most of their friends and neighbors. Hope all goes well!

[Mello1]

A common theme that occurs in every single thread like this is people getting upset at others for being excited about tropical cyclone development.

Can we not continue it this time? No one here wants death or destruction. But this IS a weather enthusiast forum, you are extremely likely to see people being enthusiastic about weather, regardless of the outcome of the storm.

Anticipating a bombing out hurricane, even one that is going to hit land, is very much par for the course here. It's not meant as disrespect or insensitivity to those who are impacted/will be impacted, it's just the nature of following storms -- the same is true with storm chasers who are excited when a tornado touches down. We can be excited for the storm itself and still dreading what happens when it hits populated areas.

If you sincerely believe someone is celebrating because of imminent suffering, report it to the mods so they don't have to spend time during a major cyclonic event chasing down the impetus for another argument.

Most of us are weather buffs here. The excitement of the event comes with the territory.

<3

Yes and situation is entirely impossible to moderate. This is where the mute button works.

The mute is fine, but for newer users or people not familiar with forums, and for those who actually come here for advice on how to prepare/whether or not to leave, arguments about excitement are entirely counter-productive. We should be focused on discussing the storm.

I think people are discussing the storm. Also for those seeking official information about the storm, they should be following the advice and notices of the NHC as many here are giving their amateur opinions and should not be taken over the word of professional Mets.

[ElectricStorm]

New convection starting to wrap around the E and N side of the eye

[InfernoFlameCat]

Cape is a measurement of how stable the airmass is. Higher cape = more instability. while cape is not everything, it certainly contributes a lot to the strength of a storm.

[wx98]

Drop in the eye is now showing nearly complete saturation.
CAPE has backed off a little to 3000

CAPE does not matter

Actually it does.

[grapealcoholic]

Drop in the eye is now showing nearly complete saturation.
CAPE has backed off a little to 3000

CAPE does not matter

You seem certain, can you back that up so we can all understand why?

I think it's because 3000 CAPE is pretty minuscule compared to energy being pulled off the ocean's surface

[tropicwatch]

Kermit back at operational altitude. Haven't seen anything from AF303 since 2328hrs.

[Craters]

(4) Ask yourself this when you get a reasonably calm moment: Why am I staying? Good question. There will be absolutely nothing you can do during the storm other than be scared to death. After the storm, you'll basically be able to do nothing. If your family or critters are with you, you'll be able to do little for them, either. If one of them or you get hurt, somebody had better have VERY good first-aid skills; some injuries, however, would just be untreatable until professional medical help became available. And that, literally, could be days away. Why in the world would you ever put yourself and them in a position where somethng like that would even have a chance of happening?

I hope I'm getting my point across. The rest is up to you.

Godspeed, regardless...

Just to address this point, many people stay because they cannot afford or do not have simple means of conveyance to leave.

If you have a chance between potentially getting hit by a hurricane and a definite strain on your finances for an indefinite period of time, some people will unfortunately feel forced to opt for the former.

Understand and agree 100%. That's why my post was addressed to those who were trying to make up their minds as to whether they should stay or leave, i.e., had the option. Apologies if I didn't make that clear...

[hohnywx]

SUMMARY OF 700 PM CDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...26.6N 87.5W
ABOUT 200 MI...320 KM SSE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
ABOUT 285 MI...460 KM SE OF HOUMA LOUISIANA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...105 MPH...165 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 320 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...969 MB...28.61 INCHES

[Steve Cosby]

Kermit back at operational altitude. Haven't seen anything from AF303 since 2328hrs.

Heading back home.

I don't know how to upload images but it is visible on Flightradar24 at 22,000 feet and 334 Knots heading west toward Houston.

[weeniepatrol]

I am so, so sorry for being offtopic, but for the people who were asking how to mute: go to a user's profile and click add foe. Done. Saw multiple people ask without the question answered. Praying for Lousiana

[Kohlecane]

AF TEAL 72 at 22k headed back they just turned transmitter on on Flightradar, about 20 min ago. couldn't see them before that. hopefully they get another up soon things are getting interesting with IDA

[SEASON_CANCELED]

(4) Ask yourself this when you get a reasonably calm moment: Why am I staying? Good question. There will be absolutely nothing you can do during the storm other than be scared to death. After the storm, you'll basically be able to do nothing. If your family or critters are with you, you'll be able to do little for them, either. If one of them or you get hurt, somebody had better have VERY good first-aid skills; some injuries, however, would just be untreatable until professional medical help became available. And that, literally, could be days away. Why in the world would you ever put yourself and them in a position where somethng like that would even have a chance of happening?

I hope I'm getting my point across. The rest is up to you.

Godspeed, regardless...

Just to address this point, many people stay because they cannot afford or do not have simple means of conveyance to leave.

If you have a chance between potentially getting hit by a hurricane and a definite strain on your finances for an indefinite period of time, some people will unfortunately feel forced to opt for the former.

Understand and agree 100%. That's why my post was addressed to those who were trying to make up their minds as to whether they should stay or leave, i.e., had the option. Apologies if I didn't make that clear...

I believe all shelters have opened as of this post at 8PM.

You can take your dog and your mask and some canned food and ride it out. Really not smart to be staying at home...the situation could rapidly get out of hand when the suns comes up

[grapealcoholic]

ARCHER spotting center NE of forecast track

[johngaltfla]

https://twitter.com/NowItsMidnight/status/1431764768168333313

Disclaimer: this may or may not be true, but if the latter...how did this end up happening?

Which of course is where our barges full of gasoline come from for Western Florida. I sincerely hope for the crew's sake they get out and haul some arse out of there soon!

[tropicwatch]

Kermit back at operational altitude. Haven't seen anything from AF303 since 2328hrs.

Heading back home.

I don't know how to upload images but it is visible on Flightradar24 at 22,000 feet and 334 Knots heading west toward Houston.

Kermit last transmission 9 minutes ago.
Time: 23:54:30Z
Coordinates: 27.817N 89.233W
Acft. Static Air Press: 695.0 mb
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 3,218 m (10,558 ft)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1007.8 mb (29.76 inHg)
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 66° at 32 kts (From the ENE at 36.8 mph)
Air Temp: 10.9°C (51.6°F)
Dew Pt: 6.5°C (43.7°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 35 kts (40.3 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 36 kts (41.4 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 2 mm/hr (0.08 in/hr)

[SEASON_CANCELED]

https://twitter.com/NowItsMidnight/status/1431764768168333313

Disclaimer: this may or may not be true, but if the latter...how did this end up happening?

Which of course is where our barges full of gasoline come from for Western Florida. I sincerely hope for the crew's sake they get out and haul some arse out of there soon!

I wouldn't worry those ships move at 20kts. They will get out of there soon enough im sure