ATL: IDA - Remnants - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
Fancy1001
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 452
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:16 pm

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3141 Postby Fancy1001 » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:08 am

wx98 wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:If it keeps deepening at this rate all the way up to landfall, I would argue that the possibility of it reaching category five shortly before or practically at landfall is still possible.

It would absolutely have to book it on intensification to get Cat 5. I just don’t see it. A mid-grade Cat 4? Sure.

So basically do what Michael did.
Last edited by Fancy1001 on Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:08 am, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

User avatar
ElectricStorm
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5044
Age: 24
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:23 pm
Location: Skiatook, OK / Norman, OK

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3142 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:08 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:In the 11pm discussion the NHC said the following

Flight-level and
SFMR observations also indicate that Ida's wind field has expanded
and there is some indication of a double-wind maximum.


Has anyone looked to see if this is continuing? If so there could be an EWRC coming soon. I'm just too tired to go look

I don't see any double wind max
1 likes   
B.S Meteorology, University of Oklahoma '25

Please refer to the NHC, NWS, or SPC for official information.

CrazyC83
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 34002
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:57 pm
Location: Deep South, for the first time!

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3143 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:08 am

Dropsonde measured 955 mb with 3 kt winds.
4 likes   

User avatar
ScottNAtlanta
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2367
Joined: Sat May 25, 2013 3:11 pm
Location: Atlanta, GA

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3144 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:09 am

wx98 wrote:Well I was watching TWC and Bettes just seemingly “signed off” for the night and now they playing the local on the 8s music on constant repeat while showing an endless barrage of weather graphics involving Ida (rain, wind, etc.)

I guess they need their rest too...gonna be a long couple of days ahead for them
0 likes   
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

wx98
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1383
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:24 pm

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3145 Postby wx98 » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:10 am

tolakram wrote:saved loop
https://i.imgur.com/vnhZH41.gif

IR visible eye is making a loop.
0 likes   

IcyTundra
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1205
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:32 pm
Location: Dickinson, Texas

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3146 Postby IcyTundra » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:11 am

Fancy1001 wrote:If it keeps deepening at this rate all the way up to landfall, I would argue that the possibility of it reaching category five shortly before or practically at landfall is still possible.


Not enough time for Ida to reach cat 5 imo. It would have to intensify at a similar rate to Wilma to reach cat 5 at this point. Not like it really matters for the people of SE Louisiana though the difference between a high end cat 4 and a low end cat 5 is negligible in terms of impacts.
1 likes   

MarioProtVI
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 935
Age: 24
Joined: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:33 pm
Location: New Jersey

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3147 Postby MarioProtVI » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:12 am

wx98 wrote:Well I was watching TWC and Bettes just seemingly “signed off” for the night and now they playing the local on the 8s music on constant repeat while showing an endless barrage of weather graphics involving Ida (rain, wind, etc.)

Same here. Very odd.
2 likes   

kn4ds
Tropical Low
Tropical Low
Posts: 12
Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:20 pm

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3148 Postby kn4ds » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:13 am

wx98 wrote:Well I was watching TWC and Bettes just seemingly “signed off” for the night and now they playing the local on the 8s music on constant repeat while showing an endless barrage of weather graphics involving Ida (rain, wind, etc.)

When did TWC start doing weather again?
5 likes   

User avatar
Blinhart
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2081
Age: 48
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:13 pm
Location: Crowley, La.

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3149 Postby Blinhart » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:13 am

IcyTundra wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:If it keeps deepening at this rate all the way up to landfall, I would argue that the possibility of it reaching category five shortly before or practically at landfall is still possible.


Not enough time for Ida to reach cat 5 imo. It would have to intensify at a similar rate to Wilma to reach cat 5 at this point. Not like it really matters for the people of SE Louisiana though the difference between a high end cat 4 and a low end cat 5 is negligible in terms of impacts.


We don't know the current wind strength of her, so we can't said how hard it will be for her to get to Cat 5 or not.
2 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
ElectricStorm
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5044
Age: 24
Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:23 pm
Location: Skiatook, OK / Norman, OK

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3150 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:13 am

Massive windfield on the south side
1 likes   
B.S Meteorology, University of Oklahoma '25

Please refer to the NHC, NWS, or SPC for official information.

User avatar
AJC3
Admin
Admin
Posts: 3999
Age: 61
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:04 pm
Location: Ballston Spa, New York
Contact:

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3151 Postby AJC3 » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:13 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:In the 11pm discussion the NHC said the following

Flight-level and
SFMR observations also indicate that Ida's wind field has expanded
and there is some indication of a double-wind maximum.


Has anyone looked to see if this is continuing? If so there could be an EWRC coming soon. I'm just too tired to go look. The eye cant get much smaller


There was nothing in the first recon pass that suggests there is, and there's no "double banding/moat" signature in the BRef data from the KLIX radar that suggests it either.
2 likes   

User avatar
Blinhart
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2081
Age: 48
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:13 pm
Location: Crowley, La.

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3152 Postby Blinhart » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:14 am

MarioProtVI wrote:
wx98 wrote:Well I was watching TWC and Bettes just seemingly “signed off” for the night and now they playing the local on the 8s music on constant repeat while showing an endless barrage of weather graphics involving Ida (rain, wind, etc.)

Same here. Very odd.


Sitting here doing this board, and put it on TWC and saw the graphics and heard the music and was expecting it to stop soon and it hasn't, so weird.
2 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Keldeo1997
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 637
Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:35 pm

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3153 Postby Keldeo1997 » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:15 am

IcyTundra wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:If it keeps deepening at this rate all the way up to landfall, I would argue that the possibility of it reaching category five shortly before or practically at landfall is still possible.


Not enough time for Ida to reach cat 5 imo. It would have to intensify at a similar rate to Wilma to reach cat 5 at this point. Not like it really matters for the people of SE Louisiana though the difference between a high end cat 4 and a low end cat 5 is negligible in terms of impacts.



Math suggests that if it keeps its near 3mb per hour deepening rate going until landfall the Pressure would be in the 920s. Not likely put not impossible.

 https://twitter.com/burgwx/status/1431845807527903240


Last edited by Keldeo1997 on Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
1 likes   

User avatar
cheezyWXguy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6108
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:29 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3154 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:15 am

Blinhart wrote:
IcyTundra wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:If it keeps deepening at this rate all the way up to landfall, I would argue that the possibility of it reaching category five shortly before or practically at landfall is still possible.


Not enough time for Ida to reach cat 5 imo. It would have to intensify at a similar rate to Wilma to reach cat 5 at this point. Not like it really matters for the people of SE Louisiana though the difference between a high end cat 4 and a low end cat 5 is negligible in terms of impacts.


We don't know the current wind strength of her, so we can't said how hard it will be for her to get to Cat 5 or not.

It would probably need to drop about 30mb to get to cat5. If it holds its rate, it could get there in about 10 hours, and has about 12 to go. Not very likely, but not impossible.
1 likes   

wx98
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1383
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:24 pm

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3155 Postby wx98 » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:17 am

Blinhart wrote:
IcyTundra wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:If it keeps deepening at this rate all the way up to landfall, I would argue that the possibility of it reaching category five shortly before or practically at landfall is still possible.


Not enough time for Ida to reach cat 5 imo. It would have to intensify at a similar rate to Wilma to reach cat 5 at this point. Not like it really matters for the people of SE Louisiana though the difference between a high end cat 4 and a low end cat 5 is negligible in terms of impacts.


We don't know the current wind strength of her, so we can't said how hard it will be for her to get to Cat 5 or not.


I think you can make a pretty educated guess at this point.
0 likes   

User avatar
Kohlecane
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 593
Age: 33
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:03 pm
Location: Beaufort, SC

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3156 Postby Kohlecane » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:19 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
wx98 wrote:Well I was watching TWC and Bettes just seemingly “signed off” for the night and now they playing the local on the 8s music on constant repeat while showing an endless barrage of weather graphics involving Ida (rain, wind, etc.)

I guess they need their rest too...gonna be a long couple of days ahead for them

It's just funny because they advertised all night coverage"24/7" as opposed to Henri where they said continuous coverage till 12CDT/1EDT :D It was funny he also stumbled up saying the winds were 964mph referring to the most recent update
0 likes   
Once I see the REDS and GREENS Converge on a Base Velocity. ... I'm There!!

This is NOT an Official Forecast....Just my Opinion. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.
HIGHLIGHTS : '13 El Reno Tornado : 2013 Storm Chaser Tour, Joaquin; SC flood event, Matthew '16, Lowcountry Snow storm Jan '18

User avatar
Blinhart
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2081
Age: 48
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:13 pm
Location: Crowley, La.

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3157 Postby Blinhart » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:19 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Blinhart wrote:
IcyTundra wrote:
Not enough time for Ida to reach cat 5 imo. It would have to intensify at a similar rate to Wilma to reach cat 5 at this point. Not like it really matters for the people of SE Louisiana though the difference between a high end cat 4 and a low end cat 5 is negligible in terms of impacts.


We don't know the current wind strength of her, so we can't said how hard it will be for her to get to Cat 5 or not.

It would probably need to drop about 30mb to get to cat5. If it holds its rate, it could get there in about 10 hours, and has about 12 to go. Not very likely, but not impossible.


It could have anywhere from 12 to 24 hours to landfall, depends on exactly where she makes landfall, where and when she starts slowing down. Because all models do show her slowing down, most do it right after landfall, however what happens if she slows down before landfall, what effect will that have on her. We are here at the mercy of Mother Nature and she will do what she wants when she wants.
1 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Comradez
Tropical Low
Tropical Low
Posts: 32
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:21 pm

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3158 Postby Comradez » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:19 am

I doubt Ida can make it to cat 5. Not because there isn't enough time, but because the CDO would have to cool to levels that Ida has never reached so far. I think organization and coverage of the CDO will steadily improve and get Ida to at least 140 mph, but you need solid rings of -80C cold-dark-grey CDO to get to cat 5, and I just don't see the potential for that on exhibit.
0 likes   

Keldeo1997
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 637
Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:35 pm

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3159 Postby Keldeo1997 » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:20 am

4 likes   

User avatar
Blinhart
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2081
Age: 48
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:13 pm
Location: Crowley, La.

Re: ATL: IDA - Hurricane - Discussion

#3160 Postby Blinhart » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:21 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Blinhart wrote:
IcyTundra wrote:
Not enough time for Ida to reach cat 5 imo. It would have to intensify at a similar rate to Wilma to reach cat 5 at this point. Not like it really matters for the people of SE Louisiana though the difference between a high end cat 4 and a low end cat 5 is negligible in terms of impacts.


We don't know the current wind strength of her, so we can't said how hard it will be for her to get to Cat 5 or not.

It would probably need to drop about 30mb to get to cat5. If it holds its rate, it could get there in about 10 hours, and has about 12 to go. Not very likely, but not impossible.


I don't worry about mb as much as wind speed when a system is as small as this one is, I know I should, however for categorizing a Hurricane it is wind not mb.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.


Return to “2021”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests