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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
The competition begins. If it does become a hurricane, it will probably keep 99L at bay, but that’s a huge if from a season that has had many model busts like Guillermo and Kevin.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
aspen wrote:The competition begins. If it does become a hurricane, it will probably keep 99L at bay, but that’s a huge if from a season that has had many model busts like Guillermo and Kevin.
It's probably gonna be like Lidia 2017 which didn't do anything to Harvey.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
TXPZ25 KNES 260013
TCSENP
A. 14E (NONAME)
B. 25/2330Z
C. 11.9N
D. 100.1W
E. FIVE/GOES-E
F. T2.0/2.0
G. IR/EIR/VIS
H. REMARKS...CIRCULAR CLOUD LINES AROUND A LLCC THAT IS LESS THAN 1.25
DEGREES FROM A LARGE COLD OVERCAST MAKES THE DT EQUAL TO 2.0 USING THE
SHEAR PATTERN. THE MET AND PT AGREE WITH THE DT AND ARE ALSO EQUAL TO
2.0. THE FT IS BASED ON THE MET DUE TO UNCERTAINTY WITH THE EXACT LLCC
POSITION IN RECENT SATELLITE IMAGERY.
I. ADDL POSITIONS
NIL
...SAMBUCCI
TCSENP
A. 14E (NONAME)
B. 25/2330Z
C. 11.9N
D. 100.1W
E. FIVE/GOES-E
F. T2.0/2.0
G. IR/EIR/VIS
H. REMARKS...CIRCULAR CLOUD LINES AROUND A LLCC THAT IS LESS THAN 1.25
DEGREES FROM A LARGE COLD OVERCAST MAKES THE DT EQUAL TO 2.0 USING THE
SHEAR PATTERN. THE MET AND PT AGREE WITH THE DT AND ARE ALSO EQUAL TO
2.0. THE FT IS BASED ON THE MET DUE TO UNCERTAINTY WITH THE EXACT LLCC
POSITION IN RECENT SATELLITE IMAGERY.
I. ADDL POSITIONS
NIL
...SAMBUCCI
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
I can’t find any evidence of a low or even mid level center if strictly looking on satellite.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
Yellow Evan wrote:I can’t find any evidence of a low or even mid level center if strictly looking on satellite.
I was really surprised when the NHC upgraded it earlier today, if it has a closed circulation is surely elongated at best.
GFS has really back off how quickly this organizes.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
NDG wrote:Yellow Evan wrote:I can’t find any evidence of a low or even mid level center if strictly looking on satellite.
I was really surprised when the NHC upgraded it earlier today, if it has a closed circulation is surely elongated at best.
GFS has really back off how quickly this organizes.
GFS is having convective feedback issues and developing multiple systems out of this.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
At least bursting convection downshear and over the center now.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression Fourteen-E Discussion Number 2
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP142021
1000 PM CDT Wed Aug 25 2021
Recent satellite imagery and microwave data indicate that the
depression has not become better organized this evening. It is
producing a ragged area of convection over the northwestern portion
of its circulation, which appears somewhat elongated along an
east-west axis. The latest UW-CIMSS objective ADT estimate and
subjective 00z Dvorak classifications from TAFB and SAB support an
initial intensity of 30 kt for this advisory.
The estimated initial motion of the poorly organized depression is
an uncertain 280/6 kt. The cyclone is being steered generally
westward along the southern extent of a mid-level ridge over the
south-central United States. A deep-layer trough over the western
U.S. is forecast to weaken the steering ridge during the next couple
of days. Thus, the depression is forecast to gain some latitude and
move west-northwestward overnight and Thursday, and then
northwestward or north-northwestward on Friday and Saturday.
Although the track guidance consensus and many GEFS and ECMWF
ensemble members still keep the center of the cyclone offshore,
there was a pronounced eastward shift in the guidance envelope this
cycle. In fact, the GFS and several GEFS members show the system
moving inland along the coast of southwestern Mexico in 2-3 days.
The official NHC track forecast has been adjusted to the right of
the previous one from 48 h onward and lies along the HFIP corrected
consensus approach (HCCA) aid. This brings the center of the cyclone
closer to the coast of southwestern Mexico, but remains offshore and
to the left of much of the latest guidance. The extended forecast
takes the system near the southern portion of Baja California Sur
early next week, but overall there is above average uncertainty in
the extended portion of the track forecast. Interests along the
coast of southwestern Mexico and in Baja California Sur should
closely monitor future updates to the forecast.
The depression is located within a favorable thermodynamic
environment for strengthening, but moderate to strong northeasterly
vertical wind shear should limit its intensification rate in the
short-term period. The shear is expected to weaken by Friday, and
the system is forecast to become a hurricane this weekend over very
warm SSTs. There remains a large amount of spread in the intensity
guidance beyond 48 h, due to the potential for land interaction
earlier in the forecast period. Since the latest NHC track forecast
keeps the system offshore, the intensity forecast is much higher
than the consensus aids during this period and trends toward the
stronger statistical-dynamical guidance. Again, confidence is lower
than normal in the day 3-5 forecast.
Key Messages:
1. The depression is forecast to strengthen to a tropical storm on
Thursday and be near hurricane intensity by Saturday. While the
core of the storm is currently expected to pass near but offshore
the southwestern coast of Mexico, strong winds and heavy rainfall,
possibly resulting in flash floods and mudslides, could affect
portions of that area over the next several days. Interests in this
area should closely monitor the progress of this system and updates
to the forecast.
2. The system is forecast to pass near the southern portion of Baja
California Sur as a hurricane early next week, bringing a risk of
wind and rain impacts to that area. Given the above average
uncertainty in the forecast, it is too soon to determine the
magnitude and location of these potential impacts.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 26/0300Z 11.9N 100.1W 30 KT 35 MPH
12H 26/1200Z 12.3N 101.2W 35 KT 40 MPH
24H 27/0000Z 13.1N 102.7W 40 KT 45 MPH
36H 27/1200Z 14.2N 103.9W 45 KT 50 MPH
48H 28/0000Z 15.6N 104.8W 55 KT 65 MPH
60H 28/1200Z 17.2N 105.6W 60 KT 70 MPH
72H 29/0000Z 18.8N 106.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
96H 30/0000Z 21.3N 108.7W 70 KT 80 MPH
120H 31/0000Z 23.0N 111.0W 60 KT 70 MPH
$$
Forecaster Reinhart/Pasch
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL EP142021
1000 PM CDT Wed Aug 25 2021
Recent satellite imagery and microwave data indicate that the
depression has not become better organized this evening. It is
producing a ragged area of convection over the northwestern portion
of its circulation, which appears somewhat elongated along an
east-west axis. The latest UW-CIMSS objective ADT estimate and
subjective 00z Dvorak classifications from TAFB and SAB support an
initial intensity of 30 kt for this advisory.
The estimated initial motion of the poorly organized depression is
an uncertain 280/6 kt. The cyclone is being steered generally
westward along the southern extent of a mid-level ridge over the
south-central United States. A deep-layer trough over the western
U.S. is forecast to weaken the steering ridge during the next couple
of days. Thus, the depression is forecast to gain some latitude and
move west-northwestward overnight and Thursday, and then
northwestward or north-northwestward on Friday and Saturday.
Although the track guidance consensus and many GEFS and ECMWF
ensemble members still keep the center of the cyclone offshore,
there was a pronounced eastward shift in the guidance envelope this
cycle. In fact, the GFS and several GEFS members show the system
moving inland along the coast of southwestern Mexico in 2-3 days.
The official NHC track forecast has been adjusted to the right of
the previous one from 48 h onward and lies along the HFIP corrected
consensus approach (HCCA) aid. This brings the center of the cyclone
closer to the coast of southwestern Mexico, but remains offshore and
to the left of much of the latest guidance. The extended forecast
takes the system near the southern portion of Baja California Sur
early next week, but overall there is above average uncertainty in
the extended portion of the track forecast. Interests along the
coast of southwestern Mexico and in Baja California Sur should
closely monitor future updates to the forecast.
The depression is located within a favorable thermodynamic
environment for strengthening, but moderate to strong northeasterly
vertical wind shear should limit its intensification rate in the
short-term period. The shear is expected to weaken by Friday, and
the system is forecast to become a hurricane this weekend over very
warm SSTs. There remains a large amount of spread in the intensity
guidance beyond 48 h, due to the potential for land interaction
earlier in the forecast period. Since the latest NHC track forecast
keeps the system offshore, the intensity forecast is much higher
than the consensus aids during this period and trends toward the
stronger statistical-dynamical guidance. Again, confidence is lower
than normal in the day 3-5 forecast.
Key Messages:
1. The depression is forecast to strengthen to a tropical storm on
Thursday and be near hurricane intensity by Saturday. While the
core of the storm is currently expected to pass near but offshore
the southwestern coast of Mexico, strong winds and heavy rainfall,
possibly resulting in flash floods and mudslides, could affect
portions of that area over the next several days. Interests in this
area should closely monitor the progress of this system and updates
to the forecast.
2. The system is forecast to pass near the southern portion of Baja
California Sur as a hurricane early next week, bringing a risk of
wind and rain impacts to that area. Given the above average
uncertainty in the forecast, it is too soon to determine the
magnitude and location of these potential impacts.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 26/0300Z 11.9N 100.1W 30 KT 35 MPH
12H 26/1200Z 12.3N 101.2W 35 KT 40 MPH
24H 27/0000Z 13.1N 102.7W 40 KT 45 MPH
36H 27/1200Z 14.2N 103.9W 45 KT 50 MPH
48H 28/0000Z 15.6N 104.8W 55 KT 65 MPH
60H 28/1200Z 17.2N 105.6W 60 KT 70 MPH
72H 29/0000Z 18.8N 106.5W 65 KT 75 MPH
96H 30/0000Z 21.3N 108.7W 70 KT 80 MPH
120H 31/0000Z 23.0N 111.0W 60 KT 70 MPH
$$
Forecaster Reinhart/Pasch
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
0z GFS still bringing the energy onshore quickly but doesn’t seem to be able to resolve the vorticity.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
12z ECMWF by comparison still keeps this near Cabo San Lucas as a decently potent system that moves into Baja California Norte.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
TXPZ25 KNES 260614
TCSENP
A. 14E (NONAME)
B. 26/0530Z
C. 11.8N
D. 100.8W
E. FIVE/GOES-E
F. T2.5/2.5
G. IR/EIR/SWIR
H. REMARKS...5/10 BANDING WAS OBSERVED AROUND THE LLCC WHICH RESULTS
IN A DT OF 2.5. THE MET AND PT AGREE WITH THE DT AND ARE ALSO EQUAL TO
2.5 BASED ON A SLOW DEVELOPMENT TREND OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS. PERSISTENT
CONVECTION WAS OBSERVED TO THE SOUTH OF THE LLCC HOWEVER SHEAR IS STILL
AFFECTING PARTS OF THE SYSTEM. THE FT IS BASED ON THE DT.
I. ADDL POSITIONS
NIL
...SAMBUCCI
TCSENP
A. 14E (NONAME)
B. 26/0530Z
C. 11.8N
D. 100.8W
E. FIVE/GOES-E
F. T2.5/2.5
G. IR/EIR/SWIR
H. REMARKS...5/10 BANDING WAS OBSERVED AROUND THE LLCC WHICH RESULTS
IN A DT OF 2.5. THE MET AND PT AGREE WITH THE DT AND ARE ALSO EQUAL TO
2.5 BASED ON A SLOW DEVELOPMENT TREND OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS. PERSISTENT
CONVECTION WAS OBSERVED TO THE SOUTH OF THE LLCC HOWEVER SHEAR IS STILL
AFFECTING PARTS OF THE SYSTEM. THE FT IS BASED ON THE DT.
I. ADDL POSITIONS
NIL
...SAMBUCCI
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
Yuma County might get a TC landfall if the Euro verifies.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
Potential landfall in Los Cabos, we need to watch this closely
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
Kingarabian wrote:Yuma County might get a TC landfall if the Euro verifies.
Yeah it seems to go over Arizona. Might get some decent rainfall out of it. It's already been a wet monsoon year for the Valley.
BTW, it's still a TD on the Best Track.
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Got my eyes on moving right into Hurricane Alley: Florida.
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galaxy401 wrote:Kingarabian wrote:Yuma County might get a TC landfall if the Euro verifies.
Yeah it seems to go over Arizona. Might get some decent rainfall out of it. It's already been a wet monsoon year for the Valley.
BTW, it's still a TD on the Best Track.
And up to 60-65mph gusts.
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Kingarabian wrote:galaxy401 wrote:Kingarabian wrote:Yuma County might get a TC landfall if the Euro verifies.
Yeah it seems to go over Arizona. Might get some decent rainfall out of it. It's already been a wet monsoon year for the Valley.
BTW, it's still a TD on the Best Track.
https://i.imgur.com/je3BshG.png
https://i.imgur.com/aoaCSgt.png
And up to 60-65mph gusts.
Wouldn't be the first Nora to move into Arizona.
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Re: EPAC: FOURTEEN-E - Tropical Depression
0z ECMWF brings this just west of Cabo like the 12z.
0z ECMWF has a more eastward turn, keeping this stronger at landfall as it spends less time over the cold California Current.
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