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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#541 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:

Would there be any subtractions from center not being in the middle of the apparent eye?


No. Eye counts as WMG there.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#542 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:22 pm

TXNT27 KNES 051804
TCSNTL

A. 12L (LARRY)

B. 05/1730Z

C. 20.1N

D. 50.2W

E. ONE/GOES-E

F. T5.5/6.0

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...A WARM MEDIUM GREY EYE THAT IS SURROUNDED BY BLACK AND
EMBEDDED IN MEDIUM GREY COLD OVERCAST MAKES THE DT EQUAL TO 5.5 AFTER
AN EYE ADJUSTMENT OF +1.0 IS MADE TO THE DT. THE MET AND PT AGREE WITH
THE DT AND ARE ALSO EQUAL TO 5.5 BASED ON A STEADY TREND OVER THE PAST 24
HOURS. SHEAR APPEARS TO BE IMPACTING THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE SYSTEM. THE
FT IS BASED ON THE DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#543 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:33 pm

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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#544 Postby Blown Away » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:53 pm


That is a very cool pic!!
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#545 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:20 pm

The eye is collapsing. Something is causing Larry to significantly weaken. The 18z best track keeps it at 110 kt, which I disagree with; it might not even be a major anymore. I have no idea what could be causing this.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#546 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:23 pm

aspen wrote:The eye is collapsing. Something is causing Larry to significantly weaken. The 18z best track keeps it at 110 kt, which I disagree with; it might not even be a major anymore. I have no idea what could be causing this.


SW shear?
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#547 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:26 pm

cycloneye wrote:
aspen wrote:The eye is collapsing. Something is causing Larry to significantly weaken. The 18z best track keeps it at 110 kt, which I disagree with; it might not even be a major anymore. I have no idea what could be causing this.


SW shear?

Is it even enough to cause such a degradation? If you look on visible imagery, the southern side doesn’t seem as restricted as it was yesterday and earlier this morning. Either something else is going on (possibly upwelling due to marginal SSTs abs Larry’s large size), or the shear is changing from upper-level to mid-level.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#548 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:30 pm

aspen wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
aspen wrote:The eye is collapsing. Something is causing Larry to significantly weaken. The 18z best track keeps it at 110 kt, which I disagree with; it might not even be a major anymore. I have no idea what could be causing this.


SW shear?

Is it even enough to cause such a degradation? If you look on visible imagery, the southern side doesn’t seem as restricted as it was yesterday and earlier this morning. Either something else is going on (possibly upwelling due to marginal SSTs abs Larry’s large size), or the shear is changing from upper-level to mid-level.


EWRC?
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#550 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:27 pm

aspen wrote:The eye is collapsing. Something is causing Larry to significantly weaken. The 18z best track keeps it at 110 kt, which I disagree with; it might not even be a major anymore. I have no idea what could be causing this.


Likely another ERC + dry air combo. Analyzed shear from CMISS is pretty favorable.
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#551 Postby Nimbus » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:34 pm

All the models have this tracking east of Bermuda but after the EWRC Larry may choose a huge eye.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#553 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:45 pm


Yet another EWRC…this should be the final one, unless it wants to challenge Winnie for the largest eye on record. That new eye looks to be about 100-130 miles across.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#554 Postby sikkar » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:00 pm

The outline of the new eye is taking shape! Anyways is it not surprising that NHC kept the same intensity given how degraded Larry looks?
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#555 Postby Meteophile » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:35 pm

It had that weird band on the west from the eye towards the eye that whole time. It just didn't seem to fit the movement of the upper (?) eyewall. It seemed like a structural issue, as if there was a larger eye, not well-centered below the smaller eye. Even if it looked like a very strong system on a non animated image, it was maybe not that strong. Dvorak doesnt calculate the storms with 3d. It only takes the cloudTOPS temperature.

Looking at the visible imagery, it finally starts to look "coherent" with this "band" (lower eyewall ?) getting "synchronized" with the higher cloudtops, even if the cdo looks much more incomplete than a few hours ago.

(i don't know a lot about cyclones, so huh... take this in count).
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#556 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:57 pm

sikkar wrote:The outline of the new eye is taking shape! Anyways is it not surprising that NHC kept the same intensity given how degraded Larry looks?

I’m seeing that outline too. The center of the eye has also warmed back up to over 10C again. Once the rest of it clears, it’s gonna make Linda look tiny by comparison.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#557 Postby Woofde » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:04 pm

The new eye Larry is clearing is going to be absolutely massive. Larry's is aiming for the Hula Hoop aesthetic.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#559 Postby aspen » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:28 pm

:uarrow: If that eye clears out, it’ll be roughly 222 km across (2 degrees of latitude) — the size of the asteroid Psyche.
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Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#560 Postby Kazmit » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:48 pm

Hurricanes with large eyes intimidate me. They look like they want to gobble up everything in their path.
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