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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#561 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:48 am

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#562 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:48 am

Recon finds no sign of CoC reformation NE of the LLC near the MLC, but clearly the LLC is speeding quickly on that direction as seen on radar.
Also finds SLPs not any lower than the previous mission.

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#563 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:49 am

That shear gradient is actually driving the strong convection.
There is a chance a strong high-helicity hot tower could pop up for a while and drive the mid-level vort to the surface.
CAPE is starting to get pretty high here.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#564 Postby grapealcoholic » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:50 am

We probably won't know much until the center is done reforming
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#565 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:51 am

NHC 7am: 25.4N/96.9W
NHC 4am: 25.5N/96.6W

Nicholas position a little farther W than 4am track, not much but that brings the W core of Nicholas skirting land.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#566 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:52 am

NDG wrote:Recon finds no sign of CoC reformation NE of the LLC near the MLC, but clearly the LLC is speeding quickly on that direction as seen on radar.
Also finds SLPs not any lower than the previous mission.

https://i.imgur.com/BJApkam.png

Gotta watch out for the LLC suddenly repositioning itself under the MLC. This is so far reminding me a lot of Sally, and after one really big hot tower, the MLC and LLC snapped together instantly. The currently expanding hot tower might attempt a Sally-like reformation.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#567 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:53 am

HurricaneTrack's theory may work out. I think we will need to have a full survey of the storm before a conclusion.

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#568 Postby grapealcoholic » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:54 am

This is a full blown reformation/stacking on radar -- pretty cool stuff
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#569 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:56 am

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#570 Postby capNstorms » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:58 am

Before coming here I was looking at the radar questioning my eyes is the COC REPOSITIONING ITSELF? :double:
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#572 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:58 am

LLC at 25.45N/96.75W, extrapolated pressure of 1000.0mb
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#573 Postby grapealcoholic » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:04 am

aspen wrote:LLC at 25.45N/96.75W, extrapolated pressure of 1000.0mb

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#574 Postby Smurfwicked » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:05 am

Just when convection appeared to be decreasing a new tower is popping on infrared.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#575 Postby Kohlecane » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:09 am

MY EYES HURT .. Nick figure it out :lol:
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#576 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:10 am

grapealcoholic wrote:
aspen wrote:LLC at 25.45N/96.75W, extrapolated pressure of 1000.0mb

993

That drop seems off to me. Usually, the AF planes don’t have such a large pressure discrepancy between extrapolated and dropsonde pressures.

Also, a 7mb drop between flights in a dying LLC? I doubt it.
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#577 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:10 am

I have to agree, the radar and radar velocity is starting to look interesting, the LLC has completely stopped its progression, what appeared it moving eastward was the convection near it being decoupled it.

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#578 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:13 am

This tower is refiring with an increasing infeed.
Based on the cirrus outflow, shear doesn't look too bad,
See how this progresses thru the day.
Just our luck, recon will probably be away if it spins up.

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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#579 Postby grapealcoholic » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:13 am

aspen wrote:
grapealcoholic wrote:
aspen wrote:LLC at 25.45N/96.75W, extrapolated pressure of 1000.0mb

993

That drop seems off to me. Usually, the AF planes don’t have such a large pressure discrepancy between extrapolated and dropsonde pressures.

It might be due to that LLC being "remnant" so the plane's flight pressure doesn't quite calibrate to normal extrapolations
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Re: ATL: NICHOLAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#580 Postby Frank P » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:14 am

Well it sure looks like on radar that the old LLC near the coast is washing out as it rotates CCW and perhaps a new center is forming off to the NE. Perhaps just premature speculation on my part…

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