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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#721 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:16 am

Blinhart wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:12z NAM 3km is very terrifying! :eek:

https://s9.gifyu.com/images/nam3km_ir_seus_fh26-60.gif

https://s9.gifyu.com/images/nam3km_mslp_wind_seus_60.png

This NAM 3km sounding is from the Western Eyewall, 175 knots just above the surface!

https://s9.gifyu.com/images/nam3km_2021082612_fh60_sounding_25.84N_89.97W.png


If this would come to truth, that would destroy almost all of South Louisiana south of I-10, don't know what 200 MPH storm would do.


Also, the NAM 2km has this as a Pinhole eye monster . . .
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#722 Postby skyline385 » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:17 am

SconnieCane wrote:For some reason this system has disappeared from the HWRF menu on TT as either 99L or 09L :?:

Standard stuff, always happens when a system is being renamed. It will pop up for 12Z as 09L
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#723 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:17 am

Guys, the NAM is not coupled correctly for tropical cyclones. Please consider that before posting those "doom" images. The bar for 09L is high, but not Hurricane Patricia levels.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#724 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:18 am

Please don't post the NAM. Some people (guests/lurkers) may not realize it's a trash model for TC's. But yes a strong storm is likely. 200mph? Nope
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#725 Postby BobHarlem » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:20 am

Weather Dude wrote:Please don't post the NAM. Some people (guests/lurkers) may not realize it's a trash model for TC's. But yes a strong storm is likely. 200mph? Nope

The Nam had showed Henri as a Cat 5 off Maryland, it should never be used for Tropical Cyclones.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#726 Postby Drewsey » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:21 am

cajungal wrote:
SoupBone wrote:78 hours, landfall in Terrebonne Parish, 953mb

https://i.imgur.com/FWWs4cL.png


Thibodaux here, Lafourche parish. This is making me nervous



Likewise...Sitting in Raceland. :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#727 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:23 am

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underthwx wrote:
SoupBone wrote:

I would argue track as well. There's a lot of sighs of relief going on this morning in Houston, but frankly I'm not sure why. If it heads to the TX/LA border, there will be impacts to Houston.


Like the experts at the NHC say time and time again....always plan for a category higher, during a hurricane event..base your decisions on information based facts...planning for a cyclone helps keep us safer during one...


So what would you suggest for us to plan for a Cat 3, which would be 1 category higher right now, or a Cat 4 which would be one category higher for this afternoon, or a Cat 5 which might be a possibility tomorrow or the next day? And we could start feeling weather from this system Saturday night, Sunday morning, when should we be doing all this planning? This situation is actually quite nerve racking.



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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#728 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:23 am

CMC joins the party with a slightly stronger 500mb high. I doubt this means any significant west shifts but it probably signifies the end of east shifts.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#729 Postby SoupBone » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:23 am

GEFS still tightly clustered in SELA, but a few stray members into Texas.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#730 Postby SoupBone » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:26 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:CMC joins the party with a slightly stronger 500mb high. I doubt this means any significant west shifts but it probably signifies the end of east shifts.



Previous run to this run. Slightly stronger ridge, but it doesn't look like it changes anything.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#731 Postby Fancy1001 » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:30 am

SconnieCane wrote:For some reason this system has disappeared from the HWRF menu on TT as either 99L or 09L :?:

Give it an hour and it will be up as 09L
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#732 Postby tailgater » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:31 am

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Rgv20 wrote:6zGFS with a nightmare scenario of a land falling hurricane into New Orleans in a little over 3 days...Very little time for preparations.

3 days is plenty if people did what they should of at the beginning of the season and if they didn't its still plenty of time, get ready

The models are locked in now so everyone from the LA/TX border east to Mobile needs to prepare for a major hurricane direct hit, its no more complicated than that.

So anyone in this area that needs to evacuate needs to start now, you do realize how large an area you are talking about, there aren’t that many hotels available within 500 miles. Just saying maybe we need it narrowed down a little bit.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#733 Postby Steve » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:31 am

CMC is coming in with a western component still. This is different than what usually happens and would probably indicate strengthening up until landfall or at least maintaining vs. fading northeast and getting absorbed/weakening. Looks to come in around Grand Isle/Fourchon which means everyone from Harrison County over to Terrebonne are going to get hit pretty hard <-- per the CMC.

However, CMC is fast and landfalls Sunday am. I haven't looked at ICON or GFS 12z to see if they have sped up landfall as well.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#734 Postby Kohlecane » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:34 am

Time will tell, and I say that because who knows what this storm thumbprint will leave us for the rest of the season, newest GFS has a TC nearly in the same forecasted spot at TD NINE in a little over a week from now :roll:
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#735 Postby underthwx » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:34 am

tolakram wrote:Looks similar to me, I expect more let and right shifts, but hopefully not too much.

https://i.imgur.com/NwyWPCZ.png


Which models do you lend most credence to?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#736 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:36 am

underthwx wrote:
tolakram wrote:Looks similar to me, I expect more let and right shifts, but hopefully not too much.

https://i.imgur.com/NwyWPCZ.png


Which models do you lend most credence to?


None. NHC forecast is out, they are far better than any individual model and have verification to prove it. They use a blend, plus the Florida State super ensemble program that makes for a very accurate forecast.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#737 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:39 am

tailgater wrote:
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Rgv20 wrote:6zGFS with a nightmare scenario of a land falling hurricane into New Orleans in a little over 3 days...Very little time for preparations.

3 days is plenty if people did what they should of at the beginning of the season and if they didn't its still plenty of time, get ready

The models are locked in now so everyone from the LA/TX border east to Mobile needs to prepare for a major hurricane direct hit, its no more complicated than that.

So anyone in this area that needs to evacuate needs to start now, you do realize how large an area you are talking about, there aren’t that many hotels available within 500 miles. Just saying maybe we need it narrowed down a little bit.
I havent seen anyone calling for evacuations.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Models

#738 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:43 am

SunnyThoughts wrote:
Blinhart wrote:
underthwx wrote:
Like the experts at the NHC say time and time again....always plan for a category higher, during a hurricane event..base your decisions on information based facts...planning for a cyclone helps keep us safer during one...


So what would you suggest for us to plan for a Cat 3, which would be 1 category higher right now, or a Cat 4 which would be one category higher for this afternoon, or a Cat 5 which might be a possibility tomorrow or the next day? And we could start feeling weather from this system Saturday night, Sunday morning, when should we be doing all this planning? This situation is actually quite nerve racking.



Just plan for worst case scenario. Start today. Fill cars up with gas. Get some cash from ATM... power goes out..no gas or teller machines. Fill up any containers you have with water and put in freezer...it will keep your frozen foods colder, ...longer, can also drink it as it melts. Fill up bathtub with water, can use to flush toilets. Have plenty of flashlights and batteries. Canned foods and a regular old manual can opener as well, Tomorrow will be Chaos, if it isnt already.


I do that normally, just asking the question because of what was said earlier.
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ATL: NINE - Models

#739 Postby skyline385 » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:44 am

While models are locked in, remember all of them are running without any recon info. If the recon manages to get there before 0Z runs, then it will decide what 09L will actually look like.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#740 Postby Christiana » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:45 am

I am in Pass Christian, MGC, 28ft of surge in Katrina, lost it all. I am SO stressed right now. Local WM is closing today at 2 due to Covid outbreak, do I make a trip for supplies? Start preparing to evacuate? HELP. I am limited financially due to just paying an astronomical NFIP premium, ironic huh?
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