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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#761 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:06 pm

Nearing Cuba at 978mb :eek:
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#762 Postby N2FSU » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:09 pm

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#763 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:13 pm

N2FSU wrote:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210703/9c06aa04c178a0a08d5a1c55681044c9.jpg
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Very poor initialization IMO, has the MLC nearly stacked with the LLC. In reality, the two are quite separated.

Despite my gushing for the HWRF early, it has handled Esla poorly since its intensification to hurricane status.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#764 Postby Steve » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:13 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:Sort of off-topic but I live in Tampa area...was gonna travel to Wisconsin next week.

What do you think the chances are this will be a nothingburger and i can go? When are the models honed in for more accuracy so i can make a decision?

Obvouisly not gonna leave if a Cat 1 or 2 comes.


? This one’s more variable than usual inside 4 days.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#765 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:13 pm

Keep in mind hwrf had is much stronger than it actually is now all day yesterday
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#766 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:15 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Keep in mind hwrf had is much stronger than it actually is now all day yesterday


Very true. The HWRF is an outlier. GFS/CMC/EURO etc. continue to show continued weakening over the next 12-24 hours.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#767 Postby toad strangler » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:19 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
N2FSU wrote:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210703/9c06aa04c178a0a08d5a1c55681044c9.jpg
978mb +21hr


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Very poor initialization IMO, has the MLC nearly stacked with the LLC. In reality, the two are quite separated.

Despite my gushing for the HWRF early, it has handled Esla poorly since its intensification to hurricane status.
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Ya, Elsa has been searching for her head for a long time now.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#768 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:22 pm

Emerges from Cuba east of key west deepening

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#769 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:26 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
N2FSU wrote:https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210703/9c06aa04c178a0a08d5a1c55681044c9.jpg
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Very poor initialization IMO, has the MLC nearly stacked with the LLC. In reality, the two are quite separated.

Despite my gushing for the HWRF early, it has handled Esla poorly since its intensification to hurricane status.


It has absolutely nailed the track but as usual it’s overkill with intensity. I do like how well it’s done on track, intensity forecasting is still a guessing game.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#770 Postby marciacubed » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:26 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Emerges from Cuba east of key west deepening

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hwrf/2021070318/hwrf_mslp_wind_05L_18.png

This would not be good for Surfside. :double:
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#771 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:26 pm

Cruising through the keys

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#772 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:28 pm

Don't throw out the HWRF out the window, once Elsa slows down later tonight there is the benefict of doubt that it will strengthen some between Cuba and Jamaica.
If it clips Cabo Cruz Cuba instead of going up the Sierra Mountains it could maintain its strength before going over the FL straights.
Lets not forget how horrible the GFS and Euro intensity forecasts did last year with storms in the GOM.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#773 Postby CourierPR » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:28 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Emerges from Cuba east of key west deepening


That's SSE of Key West.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#774 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:29 pm

Even as a 994mb storm in the keys it’s ugly on IR

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#775 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:30 pm

CourierPR wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Emerges from Cuba east of key west deepening

That's SSE of Key West.


Tomato potato

Here it’s E of Key west

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#776 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:31 pm

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#777 Postby ElectricStorm » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:36 pm

985mb FL landfall on HWRF
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#778 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:38 pm

If the HWRF had this correct yesterday, it would be down to 970 as we speak. Every other model keeps this weak through the Gulf and has been much more accurate with intensity today.

If this doesn't get its act together tomorrow, we know the HWRF is once again out to lunch.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#779 Postby SFLcane » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:38 pm

Hwrf much stronger! :eek:

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#780 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:38 pm

Peninsula landfall

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