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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#781 Postby skillz305 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:39 pm

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#782 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:42 pm

Elsa finally gets to Disney Wednesday morning

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#783 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:44 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Elsa finally gets to Disney Wednesday morning

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hwrf/2021070318/hwrf_ref_05L_26.png


That's Tuesday night at 8pm est and like other models is faster bringing this in.

If the HWRF actually verified and got down to 970 today, I might actually believe it
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#784 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:56 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Elsa finally gets to Disney Wednesday morning

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hwrf/2021070318/hwrf_ref_05L_26.png


That's Tuesday night at 8pm est and like other models is faster bringing this in.

If the HWRF actually verified and got down to 970 today, I might actually believe it



Honestly I don't trust any models for intensity. I'm looking purely at the track which the HWRF has been on point with from the start with Elsa. Intensity seems to be a mystery for models and even the NHC so I look for track and make sure I'm prepared for the worst if it comes my way.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#785 Postby NDG » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:36 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Elsa finally gets to Disney Wednesday morning

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hwrf/2021070318/hwrf_ref_05L_26.png


That's Tuesday night at 8pm est and like other models is faster bringing this in.

If the HWRF actually verified and got down to 970 today, I might actually believe it


I figured out why the HWRF was so wrong for today from yesterday's runs, it was forecasting it to slow down today and not create its own shear, when in actuallity it kept moving at 30-32 mph through the night and this morning.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#786 Postby skyline385 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:42 pm

NDG wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Elsa finally gets to Disney Wednesday morning

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hwrf/2021070318/hwrf_ref_05L_26.png


That's Tuesday night at 8pm est and like other models is faster bringing this in.

If the HWRF actually verified and got down to 970 today, I might actually believe it


I figured out why the HWRF was so wrong for today from yesterday's runs, it was forecasting it to slow down today and not create its own shear, when in actuallity it kept moving at 30-32 mph through the night and this morning.


Yea I was comparing HWRF runs from earlier and it was predicted to be way below the DR at 07/03 0Z and not so close to Haiti..
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#787 Postby SFLcane » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:07 pm

Can someone post the 18z euro looks like it’s stronger.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#788 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:14 pm

Many moderate to strong solutions among the 18z EPS members, baroclinic interaction could be another wildcard like it was for Isaias.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#789 Postby skyline385 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:18 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:Many moderate to strong solutions among the 18z EPS members, baroclinic interaction could be another wildcard like it was for Isaias.


Can you post the ensemble here?
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#790 Postby Ubuntwo » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:18 pm

SFLcane wrote:Can someone post the 18z euro looks like it’s stronger.

Operational has a moderate TS striking the Carolinas (moves over SEFL as a TD)
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Quite strong ensemble support with a few majors.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#791 Postby OuterBanker » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:27 pm

18z GFS kills it. I can relax now. :roll:
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#792 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:33 pm

NDG wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Elsa finally gets to Disney Wednesday morning

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hwrf/2021070318/hwrf_ref_05L_26.png


That's Tuesday night at 8pm est and like other models is faster bringing this in.

If the HWRF actually verified and got down to 970 today, I might actually believe it


I figured out why the HWRF was so wrong for today from yesterday's runs, it was forecasting it to slow down today and not create its own shear, when in actuallity it kept moving at 30-32 mph through the night and this morning.


See that makes sense. There always has to be some kind of reason. Thank you for pointing that out. I was thinking that it has her going so wild because it kept her away from land in warm water with favorable conditions which normallly means all systems are go. But she was just going so damn fast. Most storms would decouple at that speed so it’s still impressive that she’s chugged along all this way keeping her self somewhat intact the whole way. Pretty resilient little storm. Laura was resilient too but not with the speed. She just kept improving over land that usually wrecks storms. It’s interesting to watch storms defeat the odds that we usually see defeat them.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#793 Postby OuterBanker » Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:14 pm

First the Euro kills it while the gfs has a US landfalling storm. Now the gfs kills it and the European has a landfalling storm. It's like a couple that can never agree on anything. They should file for divorce. :D
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#794 Postby tolakram » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:39 pm

Decent init on the 0Z GFS

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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#795 Postby toad strangler » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:42 pm

tolakram wrote:Decent init on the 0Z GFS

https://i.imgur.com/5hoUM7d.png


Look how tiny that vort is. #fragile
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#796 Postby toad strangler » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:51 pm

0z GFS takes that little marble of a vort and drags it over much of Cuba at a death blow NW angle.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#797 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:59 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Elsa finally gets to Disney Wednesday morning

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hwrf/2021070318/hwrf_ref_05L_26.png


That would be hilarious if Elsa came in as a weak tropical storm or depression to hit Disney World and somehow managed to not cause any damage from now until then.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#798 Postby toad strangler » Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:02 pm

0Z GFS POOFS Elsa
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#799 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:46 pm

00z HWRF looks like it's catching the ongoing LLC relocation. Clips Jamaica and is significantly further south.
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Re: ATL: ELSA - Models

#800 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:07 am

HWRF just S of Cuba at 1000mb at hour 36
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