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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1161 Postby BobHarlem » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:45 am

6z gfs spends a whole day over Florida, gets out into the Atlantic then Loops back and hits Florida again (much weaker) and THEN gets into the Gulf again. Inverse happy hour.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1162 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:50 am

Anybody has the 06z HWRF, don't see it on tropical tidbits and weathernerds is exceeding load capacity and not showing it at this time.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1163 Postby caneseddy » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:50 am

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1164 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:51 am

NDG wrote:Anybody has the 06z HWRF, don't see it on tropical tidbits and weathernerds is exceeding load capacity and not showing it at this time.


I got it on TT, brushes the western tip of Cuba at +90-93 hours, weakens a little bit, but only to reintensify even stronger.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1165 Postby kevin » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:53 am

NDG wrote:Anybody has the 06z HWRF, don't see it on tropical tidbits and weathernerds is exceeding load capacity and not showing it at this time.


Low-end cat 3 before landfall on the westernmost point of Cuba (958 mb, 97 kt). Landfall causes slight weakening to 89 kt.

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And it's currently at +102 hrs, 947 mb & 105 kt.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1166 Postby fllawyer » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:57 am

Seems the approach and distance from Jamaica may give some early hints where the storm may ultimately go.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1167 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:58 am

Iceresistance wrote:
NDG wrote:Anybody has the 06z HWRF, don't see it on tropical tidbits and weathernerds is exceeding load capacity and not showing it at this time.


I got it on TT, brushes the western tip of Cuba at +90-93 hours, weakens a little bit, but only to reintensify even stronger.


It's here, just slow to load. Not finished yet, moving west of Cuba.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=hwrf&region=09L&pkg=mslp_wind&runtime=2022092306&fh=102
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1168 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:58 am

06Z HWRF

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1169 Postby gatorcane » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:06 am

Looks like the GFS ensembles have a big cluster west of the west coast of Florida that hang back:

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1170 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:09 am

I am still not used to seeing the GFS and hurricane models based off of it being to the left of the Euro. Is usually the other way around.
Hope the 06z GFS doesn't come to fruition, it will be catastrophic for central & SW FL.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1171 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:09 am

Really going to depend on where the center ends up consolidating IMO. If it ends up further south you can thank Fiona for maybe taking a storm that would have stayed east of Florida and changing the outcome.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1172 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:11 am

Euro 06Z is west of previous run
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1173 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:12 am

NDG wrote:I am still not used to seeing the GFS and hurricane models based off of it being to the left of the Euro. Is usually the other way around.
Hope the 06z GFS doesn't come to fruition, it will be catastrophic for central & SW FL.


I trust the GFS more when a storm is forming under shear. Not really confident but the GFS tends to sniff out center relocations a lot better than the Euro, which generally keeps a broad low like it's doing now. Really don't know, but I think that's why the GFS is further west.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1174 Postby Jelmergraaff » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:13 am

Both HMON (126kt/934mb) and HWRF (118kt/943mb) show TD Nine getting to category 4 strength at +126 hours. Even if it crosses over Western-Cuba, not much of a significant disruption it seems like.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1175 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:29 am

tolakram wrote:
NDG wrote:I am still not used to seeing the GFS and hurricane models based off of it being to the left of the Euro. Is usually the other way around.
Hope the 06z GFS doesn't come to fruition, it will be catastrophic for central & SW FL.


I trust the GFS more when a storm is forming under shear. Not really confident but the GFS tends to sniff out center relocations a lot better than the Euro, which generally keeps a broad low like it's doing know. Really don't know, but I think that's why the GFS is further west.


It could also be that the GFS shows ridging across central FL into the central GOM slightly stronger longer thus a more westward track than the Euro which shows the trough a little further south. Such a disagreement in such short range.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1176 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:31 am

EC-FAST 72 hours
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1177 Postby pgoss11 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:33 am

tolakram wrote:EC-FAST 72 hours
https://i.imgur.com/eEdM53N.png

Is that west of 00z?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1178 Postby AJC3 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:36 am

pgoss11 wrote:
tolakram wrote:EC-FAST 72 hours
https://i.imgur.com/eEdM53N.png

Is that west of 00z?


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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1179 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:36 am

06z Euro a slight shift to the west through 90 hrs and slightly weaker than its previous 0z run.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1180 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:43 am

NDG wrote:06z Euro a slight shift to the west through 90 hrs and slightly weaker than its previous 0z run.

https://i.imgur.com/U3Yko6f.gif


Hmm don’t think it will be that weak and that run would probably still hit SFL.
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