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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3261 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:33 pm

tolakram wrote:Here is the error for Ian so far

AVNO is GFS

https://i.imgur.com/JOlQiFj.png

source: https://www.atmos.albany.edu/facstaff/tang/tcguidance/


Wow the GFS is really bobbing out on this one. Remember when it had it hitting the panhandle?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3262 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:39 pm

gatorcane wrote:
tolakram wrote:Here is the error for Ian so far

AVNO is GFS

https://i.imgur.com/JOlQiFj.png

source: https://www.atmos.albany.edu/facstaff/tang/tcguidance/


Wow the GFS is really bobbing out on this one. Remember when it had it hitting the panhandle?


Overall the GFS has been closer to the actual position, but those actuals haven't occurred yet. So the way I read this is in 36 hours which current position estimate is going to be closest. The GFS has been killing it for under 48 hours.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3263 Postby StormingB81 » Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:40 pm

Where does the Euro go after landfall?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3264 Postby CronkPSU » Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:51 pm

StormingB81 wrote:Where does the Euro go after landfall?


 https://twitter.com/EricBurrisWESH/status/1574832845209702402


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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3265 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:53 pm

No reliable model has Ian going into the Atlantic ... until now.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3266 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:00 pm

12Z Euro landfall
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3267 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:04 pm

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3268 Postby GeneratorPower » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:05 pm

tolakram wrote:12Z Euro landfall
https://i.imgur.com/1O5n9aY.png

Nightmare for Fort Myers. Specifically along the Caloosahatchee River in Fort Myers Shores.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3269 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:07 pm

Euro trek across the state.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3270 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:15 pm

12Z Euro
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3271 Postby tolakram » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:16 pm

Euro total precip
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3272 Postby Kohlecane » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:19 pm

tolakram wrote:12Z Euro
https://i.imgur.com/ofLd5fo.gif

Strong TS/Cat 1 into Savannah that would be rare
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3273 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:19 pm

12Z EPS

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3274 Postby Bocadude85 » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:23 pm

18z TVCN shifts southeast to Port Charlotte/Englewood
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3275 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:35 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
MetroMike wrote:UK Met is a not a reliable model its an outlier. That would most definitely eff up my evec plans.
Please no.

The model has done well the last few days sniffing out this east trend, could have the best handle on the steering flow.


This is the key. For THIS storm rather than for all storms, the UKMET has been the best by a good margin. In general, it has done poorly in many cases just as has been the case for other models. But it has been stellar for Ian. For the last 11 runs dating back to the 0Z of Sunday, it has been south of Tampa. No other model has been close to doing that. The other models have been playing catchup. The UKMET has been ahead of these others for nearly 3 days!
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3276 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:56 pm

Great post a Larry I to think the Ukmet might have this one nailed.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3277 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:57 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:18z TVCN shifts southeast to Port Charlotte/Englewood


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ATL: IAN - Models

#3278 Postby skyline385 » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:57 pm

LarryWx wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
MetroMike wrote:UK Met is a not a reliable model its an outlier. That would most definitely eff up my evec plans.
Please no.

The model has done well the last few days sniffing out this east trend, could have the best handle on the steering flow.


This is the key. For THIS storm rather than for all storms, the UKMET has been the best by a good margin. In general, it has done poorly in many cases just as has been the case for other models. But it has been stellar for Ian. For the last 11 runs dating back to the 0Z of Sunday, it has been south of Tampa. No other model has been close to doing that. The other models have been playing catchup. The UKMET has been ahead of these others for nearly 3 days!

You can see the current model verification at

https://www.atmos.albany.edu/facstaff/t ... /al092022/

GFS has been the best upto 48 hours followed by (weirdly enough) CMC with UKMET in second for 72 & 96 hours. Think folks are just noticing the UKMET more because it was always east biased and the storm is trending east now.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3279 Postby Beef Stew » Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:03 pm

Not to sound the alarm, but- should these faster, southeastern trends continue, there would be a serious risk of coastal flooding along the northern coast of FL through GA and SC down the road.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Models

#3280 Postby SouthernBreeze » Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:06 pm

Beef Stew wrote:Not to sound the alarm, but- should these faster, southeastern trends continue, there would be a serious risk of coastal flooding along the northern coast of FL through GA and SC down the road.

Definitely. And would a more south trend allow Ian to get farther out into warmer Atlantic? It could definitely have more time over water before next landfall
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