ATL: EARL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#621 Postby Hammy » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:13 pm

aspen wrote:No hurricane-force winds in the NE quadrant. Looks like it’s still a high-end tropical storm, but the MLC and LLC continue to get better aligned and it has deepened significantly today. Earl’s significant intensification and organization phase might start tomorrow instead of Wednesday if shear doesn’t pick up and disrupt the system’s improving structure.


Looks like the MLC and LLC are rotating around each other as the relative shear relaxes, and will likely meet/wrap completely around by morning. Big change in just the last two hours vs the preceding 12.

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#622 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:24 pm

the 925 mb vorticity is just a little bit south of the 500mb
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#623 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:36 pm

Looking good for Earl now as it starts to finally get out of the strong shear. A major hurricane is looking likely.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#624 Postby Sciencerocks » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:49 pm

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#626 Postby weeniepatrol » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:54 pm

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URNT12 KWBC 060130
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL062022
A. 06/00:44:03Z
B. 22.66 deg N 065.18 deg W
C. NA
D. 993 mb
E. 115 deg 20 kt
F. NA
G. NA
H. 44 kt
I. 181 deg 14 nm 00:40:50Z
J. 246 deg 58 kt
K. 180 deg 5 nm 00:42:54Z
L. 52 kt
M. 036 deg 13 nm 00:47:34Z
N. 151 deg 58 kt
O. 033 deg 11 nm 00:46:55Z
P. 22 C / 2359 m
Q. 22 C / 2365 m
R. 9 C / NA
S. 1345 / NA
T. 0.01 / 3 nm
U. NOAA3 1106A EARL OB 17
MAX FL WIND 60 KT 158 / 25 NM 23:39:52Z
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#627 Postby aspen » Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:02 pm

Looks like we’re getting one last center pass before the 11pm advisory. Maybe this time they’ll find a hurricane.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#630 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:29 pm

Earl is gonna need a new burst soon. Cloud tops are noticeably warming, it’s like the switch just flipped off lol.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#631 Postby Ntxw » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:42 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Earl is gonna need a new burst soon. Cloud tops are noticeably warming, it’s like the switch just flipped off lol.


It's still in a relatively high shear environment. Its movement N will help but conditions are still not all that ideal for a blossoming hurricane yet. It'll continue to pulse up and down.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#632 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:12 am

Can't say I was expecting a total collapse of the inner core, looks like mid-level dry air got sucked in

Probably down to 50kt now which will delay reaching hurricane intensity and given there's only a tiny window to reach major hurricane, that's all but out of the question

Center looks about here, based on cloud motion, but seems more broad than earlier and hard to tell

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#633 Postby Teban54 » Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:56 am

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#634 Postby Hammy » Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:03 am

Finally got some microwave imagery

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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#635 Postby Nimbus » Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:49 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:Earl is gonna need a new burst soon. Cloud tops are noticeably warming, it’s like the switch just flipped off lol.


That 64 percent dropsonde humidity reading at 850 mb earlier wasn't an anomaly, the dry air won.
Also looks to have made the track shift to just east of due north.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#636 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:16 am

Looks like the HWRF was right about Earl becoming disheveled today. If it continues to follow the HWRF, then it will recover over the next 24-36 hours.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#637 Postby MHC Tracking » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:10 am

Hammy wrote:Can't say I was expecting a total collapse of the inner core, looks like mid-level dry air got sucked in

Probably down to 50kt now which will delay reaching hurricane intensity and given there's only a tiny window to reach major hurricane, that's all but out of the question

Center looks about here, based on cloud motion, but seems more broad than earlier and hard to tell

https://i.imgur.com/elFFxZD.png

Not really. This convective collapse was shown on the GFS and HWRF models, both of which take it into major hurricane territory. In fact, all stormscale models still make this a major hurricane (and even a cat 4!). GFS and ECM do too.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#638 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:25 am

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Hammy wrote:Can't say I was expecting a total collapse of the inner core, looks like mid-level dry air got sucked in

Probably down to 50kt now which will delay reaching hurricane intensity and given there's only a tiny window to reach major hurricane, that's all but out of the question

Center looks about here, based on cloud motion, but seems more broad than earlier and hard to tell

https://i.imgur.com/elFFxZD.png

Not really. This convective collapse was shown on the GFS and HWRF models, both of which take it into major hurricane territory. In fact, all stormscale models still make this a major hurricane (and even a cat 4!). GFS and ECM do too.


Not just that, Earl is already showing signs of recovering from the expected collapse.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#639 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:02 am

For a storm traveling through quite a bit of shear, I have to say that Earl has generally been an overachiever. Even with the perceived disheveled nature now, the storm simply has too much energy that I really don't think it will simply dissipate or die; we've seen storms in the past struggle like this and then get their act together after they leave a zone of high shear. My expectation is that Earl will do just that.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#640 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:12 am

Pressure looks to be falling a bit again, down to the mid-990s. The next pass will go through the NE quadrant where the strongest winds probably are.

Also, despite Earl’s convective collapse overnight, recon has found that the wind and pressure gradients align even closer than during the previous flight, indicating that the MLC and LLC have gotten better stacked.
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