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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
18z GFS still south of Euro.
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Global model run times (CST):
GFS - 0z: 10:30pm, 6z: 4:30am, 12z: 10:30am, 18z: 4:30pm Euro - 0z: 12:30am 12z: 12:30pm
GFS - 0z: 10:30pm, 6z: 4:30am, 12z: 10:30am, 18z: 4:30pm Euro - 0z: 12:30am 12z: 12:30pm
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
18Z ICON with a small east shift, would probably just scrap SFL if it was the full run
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Through 78 hrs, looks like 18z GFS is stronger than 12z, with a further north track and moving slower. The 78 hr position on the 18z run is due E of 12z's.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
FLpanhandle91 wrote:18z GFS still south of Euro.
The GFS is actually further east than the last two runs, its heading towards Cuba
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
wx98 wrote:All of you do realize that these models could just as quickly trend back west correct?
Plus the fact that even with the more easterly trend today very few models actually show 98L avoiding any US impact (so southeast of Florida).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
GFS 18z manages to let 98L pass exactly between Cuba and the Yucatan, so very little land interaction before entering the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Here is the center relocation on 18Z GFS, partly explains its west bias
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
The 18Z GFS seems to be coming a *bit* closer to the EURO atleast before the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
skyline385 wrote:Here is the center relocation on 18Z GFS, partly explains its west bias
https://s5.gifyu.com/images/gfs_z850_vort_watl_fh36-78.gif
Compared to the previous runs already very well organized when entering the Gulf, although shear may eventually decrease the strength once it gets more to the north. Also seems to be a quicker solution than the previous ones, where it almost stalled in the GOM.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
skyline385 wrote:Here is the center relocation on 18Z GFS, partly explains its west bias
https://s5.gifyu.com/images/gfs_z850_vort_watl_fh36-78.gif
I believe that's the mid-level center it wants to jump to. With the northernly shear effecting in the shorter-term it's not a total non-possibility, although it's probably overdone on the model.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Pelicane wrote:skyline385 wrote:Here is the center relocation on 18Z GFS, partly explains its west bias
https://s5.gifyu.com/images/gfs_z850_vort_watl_fh36-78.gif
I believe that's the mid-level center it wants to jump to. With the northernly shear effecting in the shorter-term it's not a total non-possibility, although it's probably overdone on the model.
This is right before it relocates, no MLC here (wind barbs are mid-level)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
One thing I’ve noticed is the GFS 18z is much stronger than the 12z.
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jfk08c wrote:Looks like the big bend area of Florida for the GFS this run
That makes better sense. I'd say anywhere from the Big Bend to Key Largo should be ready at this point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Essentially what the GFS wants to do is refocus the center to the more vigorous MLC. This is the 500 mb plot, and if you compare it the 850 mb one you'll see the two are offset.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Pelicane wrote:Essentially what the GFS wants to do is refocus the center to the more vigorous MLC. This is the 500 mb plot, and if you compare it the 850 mb one you'll see the two are offset.
https://imgur.com/KSqPSa8
Great post!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Pelicane wrote:Essentially what the GFS wants to do is refocus the center to the more vigorous MLC. This is the 500 mb plot, and if you compare it the 850 mb one you'll see the two are offset.
https://imgur.com/KSqPSa8
So here is the Z500 before the center relocates, I dont think this classifies as a vigorous MLC personally. There isnt even a vortmax visible, it forms in the next screen when the LLC relocates which doesnt seem right
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