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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion: Special Advisory=145 mph / Will be cat 5 at landfall

#101 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:38 pm

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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion: Special Advisory=145 mph / Will be cat 5 at landfall

#102 Postby KirbyDude25 » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:39 pm


Wow, that is a thick eyewall! Doesn't look like there'll be an ERC anytime soon either...
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion: Special Advisory=145 mph / Will be cat 5 at landfall

#103 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:39 pm

If only we could get another Recon plane in before landfall. I don't believe another mission is planned, and even if so, it would have to leave Keesler like now to get there before landfall.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#104 Postby Ntxw » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:46 pm

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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion: Special Advisory=145 mph / Will be cat 5 at landfall

#105 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:46 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:If only we could get another Recon plane in before landfall. I don't believe another mission is planned, and even if so, it would have to leave Keesler like now to get there before landfall.


Maybe NHC didn't anticipated this happening that did not had a plane for tonight.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion: Special Advisory=145 mph / Will be cat 5 at landfall

#106 Postby Zonacane » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:47 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:If only we could get another Recon plane in before landfall. I don't believe another mission is planned, and even if so, it would have to leave Keesler like now to get there before landfall.

Just going to wait for raw or instantaneous T to pull the trigger on an upgrade if I had to guess.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 91E - Discussion

#107 Postby FireRat » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:47 pm

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Couldn't have been more wrong.

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:This one's a male? Yet another tropical storm.

Otis wants to keep the pattern of major female - TS male alive. :cheesy:


Nature's absolute troll moment, this can't be real!
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion: Special Advisory=145 mph / Will be cat 5 at landfall

#108 Postby fllawyer » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:49 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Absolutely unreal intensification spurt. To think it was only forecast to be a tropical storm at landfall just days ago.

https://i.imgur.com/z01Tdnc.png


The 11pm ET discussion less than 24 hours ago (10/23) forecast 70mph peak at landfall.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#109 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:49 pm

I think this has got to be the first time in either EPAC or Atlantic basin recorded history that a storm intensified this much despite models keeping it extremely weak with no real future. I'm genuinely alarmed at how badly models whiffed on this storm's potential. :eek:
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#110 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:50 pm

The Raw T# is 7.3, which would support 150 kt if taken at face value. Sometimes that can be off (Eta, Iota) but sometimes it can be right.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#111 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:50 pm

Does anyone has information about how many people live in the landfall area? The largest city is Acapulco, but there are other ones in the area.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#112 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:51 pm

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Great CDO circularity. Zenith angle means GOES 18 is not picking up the warmest pixel of the eye as well.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#113 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:51 pm

cycloneye wrote:Does anyone has information about how many people live in the landfall area? The largest city is Acapulco, but there are other ones in the area.


Just Acapulco with 1 million people.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#114 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:53 pm



If that CDG closes off and the eye is warm enough, that's T8.0?
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion: Special Advisory=145 mph / Will be cat 5 at landfall

#115 Postby Yellow Evan » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:53 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:We must remember there are about 1 million people in the Acapulco metro area. That's not much fewer than in the New Orleans metro. This would be like a tropical storm in the central Gulf rapidly charging up to category 4-5 as it came right into the marshlands within 150 miles of the coast.


Acapulco is higher in elevation and waters offshore are much deeper here than the GOM.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#116 Postby Ntxw » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:54 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:


If that CDG closes off and the eye is warm enough, that's T8.0?


Eye is a little too cool, if views are correct. But at the explosive rate it's been intensifying wouldn't count it out. It has the warmest waters in the EPAC to work with.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#117 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:55 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:


If that CDG closes off and the eye is warm enough, that's T8.0?


Pray.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#118 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:56 pm

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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

#119 Postby Zonacane » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:58 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:The Raw T# is 7.3, which would support 150 kt if taken at face value. Sometimes that can be off (Eta, Iota) but sometimes it can be right.

Based on our last recon data and how the storm currently looks, I don’t think that’s far off.
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Re: EPAC: OTIS - Hurricane - Discussion

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