EPAC: HILARY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#61 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:51 pm

GFS IR simulations show this maintaining deep convection into SWCONUS.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#62 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:52 pm

NHC's 21Z day five point is inland between San Diego and Los Angeles at 18Z Monday. Reasonable track. Most moisture should be east of the track.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#63 Postby Sciencerocks » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:56 pm

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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#64 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:54 pm

Anyone in California, Arizona, and Nevada needs to take this very seriously.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#65 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:09 pm

I’m currently in Ventura,Ca..the NHC track looks to bring the remnants inland fairly close to me, not expecting much more then some rain.. interesting track that’s for sure.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#66 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:54 pm

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Bursting seems more consolidated, which is an indication it’s trying to stack. Convection is still stuck downshear so we have a ways to go before this really takes off. Northerly shear a bit more of a problem than I expected. We still have almost 3 days so there’s still time to form a core but I’m not confident in this being any stronger than Genevieve 20.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#67 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:55 pm

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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#68 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 16, 2023 6:02 pm

The GFS runs that show unreal precipitation rainfalls over the Mojave Desert and Colorado River Valley are unlikely to verify as the GFS can not properly resolve the terrain of the region. We’ve seen these greatly overestimate precipitation forecasts of decaying TCs in the past (Kay, Rosa, Odile).
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#70 Postby Monsoonjr99 » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:15 pm

Not often that a tropical cyclone heads my way. Will be interesting to track.

Starting to look potent now.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#71 Postby Ntxw » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:18 pm

Should be a hurricane by morning you would think.

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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#72 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:29 pm

^It looks like something you see in the WPAC.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#73 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:33 pm

Here we go. I thought a little more higher but it's ok.

EP, 09, 2023081700, , BEST, 0, 131N, 1045W, 45, 996, TS
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#74 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:52 pm

Another TC to fan wildfire flames?
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#75 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:01 pm

TXPZ25 KNES 170028
TCSENP

A. 09E (HILARY)

B. 17/0000Z

C. 13.1N

D. 104.6W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T2.5/2.5

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...7/10 BANDING IN W YIELDS A DT OF 3.5. THE MET IS 2.0. THE
PT IS 2.5. THE FT IS BASED ON THE PT DUE TO THE PUSLING CONVECTION.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#77 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:15 pm

CB just occurred in the upshear right and convection in general is curling into the upshear semicircle. This should be a hurricane in the morning. I'd wait to see how large its core is before assessing RI chances past minimal hurricane status but really ever since it was invested 48 hours ago, it has been organizing at a very quick pace.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#78 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:17 pm

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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#79 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:20 pm

* EAST PACIFIC 2023 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* HILARY EP092023 08/17/23 00 UTC *

TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
V (KT) NO LAND 45 52 62 73 85 104 115 119 115 101 79 59 36 35 31 N/A N/A
V (KT) LAND 45 52 62 73 85 104 115 119 115 101 79 59 37 31 31 N/A N/A
V (KT) LGEM 45 51 59 68 79 104 127 133 113 83 55 33 22 25 28 N/A N/A
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP EXTP EXTP EXTP N/A N/A

SHEAR (KT) 10 7 4 4 5 9 6 5 5 4 11 16 18 17 16 N/A N/A
SHEAR ADJ (KT) -5 -5 -4 -4 -5 -4 -2 -2 12 5 1 3 4 0 -1 N/A N/A
SHEAR DIR 24 334 308 119 101 76 67 52 204 199 153 198 182 208 201 N/A N/A
SST (C) 30.0 30.0 30.0 29.7 29.8 29.9 30.1 28.9 26.2 24.8 21.5 20.3 18.6 16.8 20.4 N/A N/A
POT. INT. (KT) 166 166 166 163 164 165 167 154 127 113 79 67 61 58 65 N/A N/A
200 MB T (C) -51.0 -51.4 -51.3 -50.9 -50.3 -50.5 -49.6 -49.5 -48.5 -48.5 -48.1 -48.1 -47.8 -48.9 -50.0 N/A N/A
200 MB VXT (C) 0.7 0.7 0.7 0.9 0.9 1.0 1.4 1.4 1.7 1.7 1.0 1.2 1.1 0.0 0.0 N/A N/A
TH_E DEV (C) 5 5 6 6 6 6 6 4 3 2 2 1 2 2 3 N/A N/A
700-500 MB RH 85 85 85 86 84 84 82 77 71 60 51 49 47 37 33 N/A N/A
MODEL VTX (KT) 29 30 33 36 39 43 46 49 49 43 34 25 10 LOST LOST LOST LOST
850 MB ENV VOR 58 47 49 62 67 90 109 103 109 114 124 79 105 35 11 N/A N/A
200 MB DIV 128 137 141 174 214 181 165 135 143 47 33 27 65 1 -13 N/A N/A
700-850 TADV -9 -8 -5 -6 -3 -7 1 2 5 0 3 2 1 0 4 N/A N/A
LAND (KM) 588 573 578 592 615 667 576 470 318 195 128 74 -51 -99 4 N/A N/A
LAT (DEG N) 13.1 13.7 14.2 14.8 15.3 16.7 18.2 20.3 22.7 25.4 28.6 31.8 34.8 xx.x xx.x N/A N/A
LONG(DEG W) 104.5 105.6 106.7 107.8 108.9 110.7 112.3 113.6 114.2 114.9 116.1 117.6 119.3 xxx.x xxx.x N/A N/A
STM SPEED (KT) 11 12 12 12 11 11 11 12 13 15 17 17 10 3 9 N/A N/A
HEAT CONTENT 39 36 32 24 24 28 28 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 N/A N/A

FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):285/ 10 CX,CY: -9/ 3
T-12 MAX WIND: 35 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 505 (MEAN=588)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 11.9 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 98.0 (MEAN=65.0)
PRELIM RI PROB (DV .GE. 35 KT IN 36 HR): 82.3

INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
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SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 1. 1. -0. -1. -1. -2. -3. 0. 0.
SST POTENTIAL 1. 2. 3. 4. 8. 12. 15. 17. 16. 13. 10. 6. 6. 4. 0. 0.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 0. 1. 2. 2. 4. 5. 7. 8. 10. 11. 12. 13. 13. 10. 0. 0.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. 1. 1. 2. 3. 3. 3. 2. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR 0. -0. -0. 0. 1. 2. 2. 1. 2. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0.
PERSISTENCE 2. 3. 3. 3. 3. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 1. 2. 1. 1. 0. 0.
200/250 MB TEMP. -0. -0. -1. -1. -2. -1. -1. -0. 1. 3. 4. 6. 7. 7. 0. 0.
THETA_E EXCESS -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -2. -3. -4. -4. -4. -5. -5. 0. 0.
700-500 MB RH 0. 0. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0.
MODEL VTX TENDENCY 0. 2. 4. 7. 10. 16. 24. 26. 18. 5. -6. -23. -21. -19. 0. 0.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0. 0.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 5. 8. 8. 7. 6. 4. 1. -0. 0. 0.
850-700 T ADVEC 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0.
STEERING LEVEL PRES -0. -0. -0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2. -2. -2. 0. 0.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 3. 3. 4. 0. 0.
GOES PREDICTORS 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 0. 0.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT -0. -0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 0. -0. -0. -0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0.
RI POTENTIAL 2. 6. 11. 16. 26. 23. 13. 3. -3. -9. -14. -16. -16. -16. 0. 0.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL CHANGE 7. 17. 28. 40. 59. 70. 74. 70. 56. 34. 14. -9. -10. -14. 0. 0.

CURRENT MAX WIND (KT): 45. LAT, LON: 13.1 104.5

** 2023 E. PACIFIC RI INDEX EP092023 HILARY 08/17/23 00 UTC **
(SHIPS-RII PREDICTOR TABLE for 30 KT OR MORE MAXIMUM WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24-h)

Predictor Value RI Predictor Range Scaled Value(0-1) % Contribution
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 119.8 36.9 to 148.5 0.74 26.0
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT) : 10.0 -22.0 to 44.0 0.48 14.7
MULTI-LAYER SHEAR (KT) : 11.3 30.9 to 7.7 0.85 20.2
BL DRY-AIR FLUX (W/M2) : -7.0 816.2 to -81.4 0.92 -24.8
D200 (10**7s-1) : 158.8 -33.0 to 159.5 1.00 20.9
MAXIMUM WIND (KT) : 45.0 22.5 to 132.0 0.64 13.1
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 11.9 37.8 to 2.1 0.73 12.2
HEAT CONTENT (KJ/CM2) : 31.0 2.7 to 103.4 0.28 2.9
%area of TPW <45 mm upshear : 0.0 49.8 to 0.0 1.00 6.4
2nd PC OF IR BR TEMP : -0.5 2.2 to -2.3 0.61 0.2

SHIPS Prob RI for 20kt/ 12hr RI threshold= 43% is 6.8 times climatological mean ( 6.3%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 25kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 99% is 7.6 times climatological mean (12.5%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 30kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 92% is 11.1 times climatological mean ( 8.6%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 35kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 87% is 14.0 times climatological mean ( 6.2%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 40kt/ 24hr RI threshold= 63% is 15.0 times climatological mean ( 4.2%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 45kt/ 36hr RI threshold= 100% is 14.9 times climatological mean ( 6.7%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 55kt/ 48hr RI threshold= 100% is 16.9 times climatological mean ( 5.9%)
SHIPS Prob RI for 65kt/ 72hr RI threshold= 69% is 14.7 times climatological mean ( 4.7%)

Matrix of RI probabilities
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RI (kt / h) | 20/12 | 25/24 | 30/24 | 35/24 | 40/24 | 45/36 | 55/48 |65/72
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SHIPS-RII: 42.5% 99.1% 91.8% 86.9% 63.2% 100.0% 100.0% 68.9%
Logistic: 36.7% 83.3% 68.8% 61.3% 51.1% 79.6% 80.4% 6.8%
Bayesian: 39.7% 78.1% 67.7% 51.5% 27.2% 75.8% 56.8% 5.7%
Consensus: 39.6% 86.8% 76.1% 66.6% 47.1% 85.1% 79.1% 27.1%
DTOPS: 34.0% 79.0% 78.0% 71.0% 48.0% 69.0% 73.0% 24.0%

## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) EP092023 HILARY 08/17/23 00 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=3 NFAIL=4 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#80 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:29 pm

HAFS-A to SW California as a TS.

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