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ATL: HAROLD - Remnants - Discussion

#1 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:34 am

AL, 91, 2023082012, , BEST, 0, 241N, 833W, 20, 1012, DB, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1014, 150, 90, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 019, SPAWNINVEST, al722023 to al912023,


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#2 Postby jaguars_22 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:38 am

Yep unfortunately it’s going to make landfall in Mexico :(
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#3 Postby ChrisH-UK » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:42 am

91L at this moment

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#4 Postby REDHurricane » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:05 pm

It's still clearly dealing with some northwesterly shear but nevertheless starting to show some signs of low to mid-level consolidation:

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#5 Postby zzzh » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:11 pm

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#6 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:22 pm

I'm thinking TS at landfall for now. Hopefully southern TX can get some decent rain
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#7 Postby Rgv20 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:30 pm

Looking very healthy today. Looks like a TS at landfall in Lower Texas Coast/NE Mexico would be a good bet. Looking at the most recent 12z models the landfall have been sped up from Tuesday Evening/Night to Tuesday Morning.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#8 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:56 pm

Western Gulf of Mexico (AL91):
Showers and thunderstorms have increased this afternoon in
association with an area of disturbed weather located in the eastern
Gulf of Mexico. Additional development of this system is possible as
it moves westward at about 15 to 20 mph, and a tropical depression
could form as it approaches the western Gulf of Mexico coastline by
Tuesday.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...50 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...60 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#9 Postby wxman57 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:58 pm

Models have it inland into south TX between 7am-10am Tuesday, which is easily within the next 48 hrs. How are chances of development greater beyond 48 hrs?
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#10 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:02 pm

It wouldn’t take much to close off a circulation, is almost there. The GOM doing its magic as usual.

 https://twitter.com/ndgmetchef/status/1693321873642156094


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#11 Postby psyclone » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:04 pm

PTC before the day is out IMO. Looks too good not to pull the trigger and the tailwind of climo on bell ring day makes it all the more fitting.
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#12 Postby toad strangler » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:06 pm

wxman57 wrote:Models have it inland into south TX between 7am-10am Tuesday, which is easily within the next 48 hrs. How are chances of development greater beyond 48 hrs?


Crossover?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#13 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:13 pm

toad strangler wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Models have it inland into south TX between 7am-10am Tuesday, which is easily within the next 48 hrs. How are chances of development greater beyond 48 hrs?


Crossover?


Nope, is not going to the EPAC.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#14 Postby REDHurricane » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:35 pm

LLC forming somewhere around this area? (excuse the poor gif making skills)

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#15 Postby REDHurricane » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:54 pm

Moisture envelope looks to be coming together a bit as well. I would not be at all surprised if this ends up a hurricane before landfall -- moist environment + low wind shear + 31ºC and higher SST + existing impulse = increased chance of unexpected intensification

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#16 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:30 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#17 Postby jabman98 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:52 pm

Pretty much all of Texas needs rain so I'm glad for anyone that gets some from this system. But dang it, I wish we could get some of it here in the Houston area.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#18 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 3:10 pm

91L is becoming better organized, and maybe a little quicker than some of the model guidance expected
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#19 Postby Into The Fog » Sun Aug 20, 2023 3:57 pm

Its 108, my tomatoes are dying I'm flying the white flag of surrender
As wxman said "NO soup for you, Galveston." I know my family in San Antonio is gonna be happy with some rain though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#20 Postby Jr0d » Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:14 pm

Looks very close to being a depression right now. I am surprised the NHC is not issuing PTC advisory already as TS watches will need to be issued soon.

I would bet recon will Gert.
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