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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1181 Postby Xyls » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:25 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:943.8 mb
(~ 27.87 inHg)


Is this the actual reading? Because WTF is happening?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1182 Postby Keldeo1997 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:25 am

Now Rita and 1935 isn't going to be challenged right guys????
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1183 Postby kevin » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:26 am

9 mb in 53 minutes indicates a deepening rate of roughly 10 mb/hr. I just looked up Wilma's report. Here's an excerpt from it.

Wilma’s deepening rate over the northwestern Caribbean Sea, from late on 18 October to
early on 19 October, was incredible. Over the period from 2310 UTC to 0433 UTC, the central
pressure fell from 954 mb to 901 mb, which is a deepening rate of 9.9 mb per hour.


In other words, we're looking at a potential Wilma 2.0.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1184 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:26 am

Wow.

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1185 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:27 am

Insane!
80 mm/hr rain rate.
IMHO Cat 4 by end of day.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1186 Postby Xyls » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:27 am

kevin wrote:9 mb in 53 minutes indicates a deepening rate of roughly 10 mb/hr. I just looked up Wilma's report. Here's an excerpt from it.

Wilma’s deepening rate over the northwestern Caribbean Sea, from late on 18 October to
early on 19 October, was incredible. Over the period from 2310 UTC to 0433 UTC, the central
pressure fell from 954 mb to 901 mb, which is a deepening rate of 9.9 mb per hour.


In other words, we're looking at a potential Wilma 2.0.


I mean, at the rate we are going Patricia might be a better ceiling than Wilma?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1187 Postby Xyls » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:27 am

GCANE wrote:Insane!
80 mm/hr rain rate.
IMHO Cat 4 by end of day.


By end of day? At the rate this is going we will have a Cat 5 by lunch...
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#1188 Postby Charleswachal » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:28 am

kevin wrote:Let's start talking about the ERI record. Milton was still a TS 10am CDT yesterday (15z). Now, 6am CDT (11z) it is a major hurricane. That means it only took 20 hours to go from a TS to a cat 3. Wilma's record for a TS to a C5 is 24 hours. Note that Wilma also intensified from a C3 to a C5 within 5 hours. While unlikely, this means that if Milton intensifies into a cat 5 within the next 4 hours Wilma's unbreakable record will be broken.



So with a 9 mb pressure drop over the last hour extrapolated out to the following 4 hours would indicate we could easily break the record.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1189 Postby weeniepatrol » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:29 am

Waiting for dropsonde. Could be a mesovort.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1190 Postby aspen » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:30 am

Holy cow, 943.8mb extrapolated and 110-115 kt FL. I was not expecting this to blow up like that overnight.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1191 Postby UTSARoadrunner4 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:30 am

Oy Vey Florida…

This parked over BOC for a very hot minute. At what point does upwelling become a factor?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1192 Postby Xyls » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:31 am

UTSARoadrunner4 wrote:Oy Vey Florida…

This parked over BOC for a very hot minute. At what point does upwelling become a factor?


I mean the storm is pretty small so don't know if we would be seeing a lot of upwelling at this point.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1193 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:31 am

Looks like about 15 miles south of forecast track
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1194 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:32 am

Laser30033003 wrote:"A special advisory will be issued by 7 AM CDT (1200 UTC) to reflect
this change and update the forecast. "

is the NHC going to adjust the track at 8 AM....


They're probably going to increase the max intensity at 8am.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1195 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:33 am

GCANE wrote:Looks like about 15 miles south of forecast track


We saw during Wilma the eye would bounce around in an oscillating, sinusoidal fashion. I wonder if we're going to see that here, considering Milton's deepening at that rate.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1196 Postby xironman » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:33 am

UTSARoadrunner4 wrote:Oy Vey Florida…

This parked over BOC for a very hot minute. At what point does upwelling become a factor?


Upwelling only really happens in a stall, it is moving fast enough to cover new ocean
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1197 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:34 am

Xyls wrote:
GCANE wrote:Insane!
80 mm/hr rain rate.
IMHO Cat 4 by end of day.


By end of day? At the rate this is going we will have a Cat 5 by lunch...


LOL.
However, with such a high RI, an EWRC becomes much more likely.

Watching the eyedrops to see if RH at 850mb starts to drop.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1199 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:35 am

GCANE wrote:Insane!
80 mm/hr rain rate.
IMHO Cat 4 by end of day.


Yikes. This thing is exploding in every aspect. The Gulf is a beast incubator.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion Update: Cat 3=120 mph

#1200 Postby Chemmers » Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:35 am

Unfortunately I think it just a matter off time now until it get to cat 5 now, stay safe everyone
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