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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#141 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:58 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#142 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:04 am

Center is on the east side of the convection due to easterly shear. I noticed that the consensus models (TVCC/TVCN) have trended farther south in the 12Z update. Models indicate it could get close to hurricane strength as it passes Barbados, but all models indicate weakening by the time it passes south of Jamaica next Wednesday. There are also indications of a south of due west track beyond day 5, which would take the center into Honduras or Belize next Friday. I don't see any significant threat to the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#143 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:37 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#144 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:43 am

Still early in the game, the gulf coast needs to be watching carefully, we really wont know where this will head until it likely reaches the western caribbean in a week
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#145 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:04 am

Lots of uncertainty beyond the 4 day range. Does it stay stronger in the Caribbean, gains latitude and crashes over the Greater Antilles to weaken it and get weakened further by a TUTT in place by then or does it track further south gets the effects of the low level jet of the central Caribbean to move quickly across the Caribbean into C.A.
But in the short term the Windward Islands need to prepare for an unusual possible hurricane for this time of the year.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#147 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:47 am

Wikipedia does a great job with illustrating this in their "Tropical cyclones of 'insert year'" pages, but every year, there normally seems to be at least one significant tropical cyclone that forms during any given month in the world, but especially June-November. This June, only one storm, Alberto, has formed. No EPAC or WPAC systems even. Based on this general pattern, I'd have to imagine that whatever comes out of 95L will be the "flagbearer" sort of speak for June 2024.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#148 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:50 am

The 12z surface analysis has Developing Gale.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#149 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:01 am

Where is NHC's 12Z best track location and intensity? I want to see if they initialized it at 30 or 35 kts
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#150 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:04 am

wxman57 wrote:Where is NHC's 12Z best track location and intensity? I want to see if they initialized it at 30 or 35 kts


From Tropical Tidbits:

Invest 95L
As of 12:00 UTC Jun 28, 2024:

Location: 8.9°N 39.1°W
Maximum Winds: 30 kt
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#151 Postby kevin » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:05 am

The 14:30 UTC ASCAT pass shows a closed circulation with multiple 30 - 35 kt barbs, seems sufficient for an upgrade to a 30 kt TD imo.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#152 Postby zzzh » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:07 am

kevin wrote:The 14:30 UTC ASCAT pass shows a closed circulation with multiple 30 - 35 kt barbs, seems sufficient for an upgrade to a 30 kt TD imo.

Where did you see that? This morning's ascat missed the system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#153 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:17 am

LLC is now back under the anti-cyclone.
Shear less than 10 knts,
Small hot towers popping
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#154 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:18 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#155 Postby kevin » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:22 am

ASCAT images. Upon closer inspection only 25 - 30 kt barbs, not 30 - 35 kt, but I assume that's simply because it's not a direct hit of the system. Or is that area in the upper-right corner not 95L?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#156 Postby Ubuntwo » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:26 am

kevin wrote:ASCAT images. Upon closer inspection only 25 - 30 kt barbs, not 30 - 35 kt, but I assume that's simply because it's not a direct hit of the system. But the upper image does clearly show the structural improvement compared to yesterday's ASCAT pass. Or is that area in the upper-right corner not 95L?

https://i.imgur.com/lYVpodw.png

https://i.imgur.com/o5WndXF.png

The dates on this ASCAT product are a little deceiving. The time at the top-right is the time retrieved, not time of the pass itself. Those are located along the bottom of the plot in purple text: 23:34 UTC, so this is yesterday's pass.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#157 Postby kevin » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:27 am

Ubuntwo wrote:
kevin wrote:ASCAT images. Upon closer inspection only 25 - 30 kt barbs, not 30 - 35 kt, but I assume that's simply because it's not a direct hit of the system. But the upper image does clearly show the structural improvement compared to yesterday's ASCAT pass. Or is that area in the upper-right corner not 95L?

https://i.imgur.com/lYVpodw.png

https://i.imgur.com/o5WndXF.png

The dates on this ASCAT product are a little deceiving. The time at the top-right is the time retrieved, not time of the pass itself. Those are located along the bottom of the plot in purple text: 23:34 UTC, so this is yesterday's pass.


A yes I see it now as well, thanks.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#158 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:33 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#159 Postby Nuno » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:45 am

I would imagine this gets an upgrade at 5pm? Looks incredibly well organized out there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#160 Postby 3090 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:54 am

wxman57 wrote:Center is on the east side of the convection due to easterly shear. I noticed that the consensus models (TVCC/TVCN) have trended farther south in the 12Z update. Models indicate it could get close to hurricane strength as it passes Barbados, but all models indicate weakening by the time it passes south of Jamaica next Wednesday. There are also indications of a south of due west track beyond day 5, which would take the center into Honduras or Belize next Friday. I don't see any significant threat to the Gulf.
Depends on its actual track, when it enters the Caribbean. A southerly track, it will intensify and move more quickly into CA. A northerly track, it will get sheared by the developing TUTT and will end up a naked swirl, probably entering the Yucatan channel. Beyond the CA possibility, or the YC possibility, time frame wise, is just purely speculative at this point. ANY GOM development, or no development, beyond 5-6 days, is NOT on the table at the moment.
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