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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#181 Postby floridasun » Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:52 pm

if get any stronger and high weaking a bit more it may feel weakness to north that some thing we need watch it gain latitude
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#182 Postby 3090 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:27 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:Stronger system & weaker ridge to the north are allowing for a more northwest trajectory on approach to the Gulf Coast. Will get quite close to south Texas this run. Many options for this are still on the table after its trek through the Caribbean.


I have been emphasizing that beyond 5 days, (6-7), that the forecast track is essentially a bit iffy. Maybe it dives into Mexico in the very southern BOC, or it turns more NW and landfalls in northen Mexico/south Texas. A lot is still up in the air, AFTER 5 days. Forecasting beyond 5 days, is very sketchy.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#183 Postby aspen » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:33 pm

18z HWRF has a Cat 2 tomorrow afternoon and a Cat 3 by Monday morning.

Update: 115 kt Cat 4 just south of Saint Vincent on Monday afternoon. A south shift this run.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#184 Postby lsuhurricane » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:43 pm

18z Euro is very strong near Jamaica.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#185 Postby aspen » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:59 pm

HAFS-A peaks at 95-100kt during its passage through the Lesser Antilles, but the 18z run initializes too weak.

HAFS-B initializes closer to reality like the HWRF and peaks at 120-125 kt while having a fairly high pressure in the low 950s.

Both models show Beryl being impacted by shear as early as Tuesday morning, which significant weakening down to a Cat 1 or a high-end TS by the end of the run.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#186 Postby Nimbus » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:08 pm

floridasun wrote:if get any stronger and high weaking a bit more it may feel weakness to north that some thing we need watch it gain latitude


There is high cirrus pushing west that marks the western edge of the subtropical ridging but the GFS has Beryl getting torn up by Hispaniola later in the forecast. Since it may be a compact windfield Barbados might luck out if the track stays far enough south. Eyewall winds from a major hurricane are no fun.

18Z HWRF finally tracking south of Jamaica with a 954 MB hurricane.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#187 Postby BobHarlem » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:06 pm

Ships intensity guidance for Beryl, those cat 4/5 numbers I don't like.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#188 Postby lsuhurricane » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:15 pm

Easy to see the deviation point on the 18z EPS. Strength on approach to Jamaica results in those members trending towards the GOM. Appears to be 10-20% on this run.

Members that are less strong tend to head towards the Yucatán.

Cutting it close!

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#189 Postby 3090 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:50 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:Easy to see the deviation point on the 18z EPS. Strength on approach to Jamaica results in those members trending towards the GOM. Appears to be 10-20% on this run.

Members that are less strong tend to head towards the Yucatán.

Cutting it close!

https://i.ibb.co/Rj5B12k/14-km-EPS-Global-Cyclones-Caribbean-Ens-MSLP-Spaghettios-2.gif


Timing is going to be very very interesting, along with intensity. Some indications the TUTT is not going to be as strong and Beryl will remain as a hurricane as it approaches the western end of Cuba after skirting south of Jamaica. Stronger north, diving trough, POTENTIAL more northerly component to Beryl’s final days. ATM; really too close to call.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#190 Postby aspen » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:52 pm

BobHarlem wrote:Ships intensity guidance for Beryl, those cat 4/5 numbers I don't like.
https://i.imgur.com/tcqzolG.jpeg

Dang, the environment looks insane in 108-120 hrs if there’s enough left of Beryl to take advantage of it.

Judging by those charts, Beryl will likely peak between 48-60 hours from now (Monday evening - Tuesday morning) before shear spikes. I think there’s a chance it could make a run at Cat 4 intensity then.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#191 Postby BIFF_THE_UNRULY » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:43 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:Easy to see the deviation point on the 18z EPS. Strength on approach to Jamaica results in those members trending towards the GOM. Appears to be 10-20% on this run.

Members that are less strong tend to head towards the Yucatán.

Cutting it close!

https://i.ibb.co/Rj5B12k/14-km-EPS-Global-Cyclones-Caribbean-Ens-MSLP-Spaghettios-2.gif


Yikes. Theres no consensus anywhere yet. Everyone from west coast of florida to yucatan needs to watch this
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#192 Postby hurricane2025 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:47 pm

This isn’t going to Florida
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#193 Postby mantis83 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:56 pm

hurricane2025 wrote:This isn’t going to Florida

agreed! a combination of strong ridging and a tutt will keep it south of florida
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#194 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:12 pm

3090 wrote:
lsuhurricane wrote:Easy to see the deviation point on the 18z EPS. Strength on approach to Jamaica results in those members trending towards the GOM. Appears to be 10-20% on this run.

Members that are less strong tend to head towards the Yucatán.

Cutting it close!

https://i.ibb.co/Rj5B12k/14-km-EPS-Global-Cyclones-Caribbean-Ens-MSLP-Spaghettios-2.gif


Timing is going to be very very interesting, along with intensity. Some indications the TUTT is not going to be as strong and Beryl will remain as a hurricane as it approaches the western end of Cuba after skirting south of Jamaica. Stronger north, diving trough, POTENTIAL more northerly component to Beryl’s final days. ATM; really too close to call.

You can look at the WV loop now and see the TUTT is eroding
https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/s ... &length=24
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#195 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:32 pm

00z ICON cat 3 Beryl goes into corpus christi
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#196 Postby LAF92 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:46 pm

Stratton23 wrote:00z ICON cat 3 Beryl goes into corpus christi

What I don’t like is on the ICON it’s looks to be having a lot of North direction to it. That ridge is eroding quickly on that run
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#197 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:04 pm

This CMC run can immediately be discounted, very very bad initialization, almost 20 mb higher than what the current pressure is
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#198 Postby Tailgater33 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:23 pm

Stratton23 wrote:This CMC run can immediately be discounted, very very bad initialization, almost 20 mb higher than what the current pressure is


Yes please, right over my house and intensifying. I like my trees upright. I want nothing but a few inches of rains over a couple days
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#199 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:29 pm

Stratton23 wrote:This CMC run can immediately be discounted, very very bad initialization, almost 20 mb higher than what the current pressure is


CMC is not really good at exact intensities of systems, but I have found the model to be very good at sniffing out systems and general tracks. If you have a decent signature in the model, it's normally a sign that the storm is strong, irregardless of the exact mbar reading shown in the model.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Models

#200 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:30 pm

GFS has a US landfall near Corpus Christi. Several other models are also showing this system moving into the NW Gulf. I am curious if the Euro shows a similar solution of this moving NW after crossing the Yucatan.
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