ATL: BERYL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2061 Postby Sciencerocks » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:14 pm

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2062 Postby HurricaneBrain » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:17 pm

To me, it looks like the motion is NW in the last few frames...
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2063 Postby WaveBreaking » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:17 pm

Odeseus wrote:
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Odeseus wrote:Anyone else notice a “blob” structure to the east? Reminds me of Matthew in the same general location in 2016.


A smaller one is to the south of that.
IMHO its an indication of a feeder band with associated vigorous convection


I’m not so sure on that. Feeder band at least try to wrap around. This feature shows no sign of rotating around the core of the hurricane. It is firmly planted almost due east of the center.

It is also almost completely cut off from the rest of the system. And it seems stable. Been a feature for a while. For Matthew, the “blob” existed for a LONG time directly to the east of the system, while also being relatively cut off. That smaller burst to the southeast popped and is fading already. But the “blob” stays.

Finally, the cloud tops in the “blob” are just as intense on IR as the core of the system. I can’t recall another system besides Matthew that had a similar feature. Feeder bands don’t have cloud tops that match or exceed the core. Something else is going on here.


IMO it looks like the fast ESE trade winds are creating a convergence zone with SW winds from Beryl’s circulation.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2064 Postby Craters » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:25 pm

Is that a huge outflow boundary from collapsing cells on the northwest edge of the storm? Beryl is definitely moving into a lot of dry air.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2065 Postby Javlin » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:29 pm

HurricaneBrain wrote:To me, it looks like the motion is NW in the last few frames...

Was thinking the same maybe land friction?looks ATTM maybe bisect Jamaica
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2066 Postby UTSARoadrunner4 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:31 pm

According to https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/windmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=shr&zoom=&time= , it seems like shear has slightly weakened to the NW of Beryl. There’s an isolated pocket of 15-20 knots of shear to the WNW of Beryl, right before the Yucatán & Belize. I would think that further weakening of Beryl depends on its interaction of this pocket of shear and what part of the Yucatán it hits.

If it aims for Cancun, then I would anticipate a major or high-end Category 2 in the Gulf due to less interaction with that shear pocket and land. Versus if it hits Tulum, then we’ll probably see Beryl as a Category 1 back into the Gulf due to interaction with that shear pocket and the Yucatán/Puuc Hills.

Let me know if my assumption is wrong, but that’s just my 2 cents.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2067 Postby Blinhart » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:34 pm

I don't see her weakening down to 100 MPH before the Yucatan, therefore I think all the forecast from the Yucatan onwards is way off. I can see this staying a Major all the way to the Yucatan and possibly only clip the Yucatan and go much further North.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2068 Postby jaguars_22 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:36 pm

Blinhart… idk it looks like it’s possibly already under 100mph!?? This thing is taking a beating! And all models show it weak now… not just a few models but most of them!

I say a low end hurricane hitting Yucatán and then weakening to low end tropical storm and landfall Tampico…. So weird and odd everything wants Tampico this year :)
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2069 Postby Blinhart » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:37 pm

jaguars_22 wrote:Blinhart… idk it looks like it’s possibly already under 100mph!?? This thing is taking a beating! And all models show it weak now… not just a few models but most of them!

I say a low end hurricane hitting Yucatán and then weakening to low end tropical storm and landfall Tampico…. So weird and odd everything wants Tampico this year :)


There is no way it is down to 100, got -90C cloud tops and getting the eye wall reforming I think this thing still has winds about 135, since the NHC just updated and said it is 140.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2070 Postby jaguars_22 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:38 pm

Is recon going out this afternoon? Your probably right blinhart! Just weird it looks this way and still that strong
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2071 Postby Blown Away » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:42 pm

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Warm spot in the middle looks like a real close brush or landfall…
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2072 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:49 pm

Didn't we see this before back in June where Beryl was able to wrap upshear and strengthened to the earliest C4 hurricane on record?


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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2073 Postby LadyBug72 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:52 pm

Iceresistance wrote:Didn't we see this before back in June where Beryl was able to wrap upshear and strengthened to the earliest C4 hurricane on record?


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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2074 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:53 pm

jaguars_22 wrote:Blinhart… idk it looks like it’s possibly already under 100mph!?? This thing is taking a beating! And all models show it weak now… not just a few models but most of them!

I say a low end hurricane hitting Yucatán and then weakening to low end tropical storm and landfall Tampico…. So weird and odd everything wants Tampico this year :)


There is absolutely zero evidence to support Beryl being that weak; we just had a recon fairly recently that still showed Category 4 despite ragged appearance.

Believe it or not, it's not unheard of to have major hurricanes that look ragged. Matthew 2016 is a striking example.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2075 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:53 pm

There is a new burst of convection but the dangerous core winds appear to be staying off Jamaica for the most part. Recon will give us more information about the current intensity later.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2076 Postby Hurrilurker » Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:04 pm

Heavy rains coming down in Kingston. Winds aren't crazy yet but definitely picking up, notably gustier compared to an hour ago.

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2077 Postby HurricaneBrain » Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:05 pm

IR sure does give an illusion of the center reforming SE.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2078 Postby Hammy » Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:06 pm

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radar still shows a pretty solid eyewall
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2079 Postby Kazmit » Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:14 pm

The last recon pass fixed the pressure as being 1mb lower. Certainly looks to be holding steady if not deepening again. That new burst of convection wrapping around the center is impressive for a "weakening" system.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2080 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:17 pm

HurricaneBrain wrote:IR sure does give an illusion of the center reforming SE.

It does, but IR is only seeing the top-most layer of clouds. Beryl has been tilted some by the shear, which is why its eye has been cloud filled. Whatever abatement of the shear that’s occurring right now seems to be allowing it to realign vertically.
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