ATL: MILTON - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[Beef Stew]

Anyone know what the pressure of Camille was in 1969 (I think that was the year)

900, officially. I’ve always personally suspected it could’ve been lower for Camille.

[BobHarlem]

Anyone know what the pressure of Camille was in 1969 (I think that was the year)

Camille was #6 at 900
It's tied at #5 with Allen from 1980 at 899
Next up is Rita at 895, the 1935 labor day with 892, Gilbert (1988) 888, and finally Wilma (2005) with 882.

[KWT]

Anyone know what the pressure of Camille was in 1969 (I think that was the year)

Estimated peak at 900mbs, lowest report from recon was 905mbs I believe.

Only Rita, Labour day 35, Gilbert and Wilma are now lower and honestly I can I see Rita going within the hour.

[Hypercane_Kyle]

NOAA2 going in for another pass.

[tropicwatch]

Shortwave imagery showing some raggedness to the eye now.

[Steve H.]

Before Andrew came in, I-95 traffic was diverted to only go north. There was no southbound traffic allowed.

[Beef Stew]

Tying, or even breaking Allen’s wind record (190 mph) is even on the table here.

[Stormgodess]

I once heard someone say there is no Category 6 Hurricanes, because there is no damage to analyze at that point, because there simply isn't anything left.

Is that true?

[ConvergenceZone]

Phenomenal phenomenon in the making. Funny thing is, it's giving me a sick feeling, not giddy at all.

I'm fair to call myself safe being in Hollywood Florida, but my heart aches for those in his path..

If it was closing to landfalling I'd be getting a sick feeling, but I'd much rather see it gain strength early like this than later. Not downplaying it at all, but just saying it could MUCH worse. Imagine a storm like this that had idea conditions up until landfall. As others have been saying on here, this is expected to significantly weaken when it gets about 24 hours away from landfall. I still think it will be a major hurricane though. Currently I'm thinking 110 mph to 115, and so surge will still be bad regardless.. (my own opinion is all)

[tropicwatch]

Shortwave imagery showing some raggedness to the eye now.

https://tropicwatch.info/miltonshortwave100720242316z.png

Raggedness didn't last long, now back to a symmetrical pinhole.

[cheezyWXguy]

I once heard someone say there is no Category 6 Hurricanes, because there is no damage to analyze at that point, because there simply isn't anything left.

Is that true?

That’s more likely a description of F/EF5 for tornadoes. Cat5 wind damage isn’t quite that extreme

[Michele B]

Just seen a photo from a friend. Paddock mall parking lot in Ocala is filled with power trucks sitting.

Glad to hear they are staging. The power trucks will be from across the country.

You'll see caravans of them heading in on the freeways.

They stage in a safety zone along with all the first responders who evacuated once a mandatory evacuation order was issued.

As a review a citizen is not required to evacuate when mandatory evacuations are ordered.

It means all emergency personnel including the police are no longer there to help and you truly are on your own.

Was always a sad feeling when they all left just before the storm. Many wanted to stay but the protocols are there for a reason.

Along with the power workers cutting their way in all the first-responders were there eager to get into the war zone and do their heroic work.

Chuck

This is true, of course, but people tend to forget that!

In fact, the first thing they do once there is a problem (water flooding in, roof flies away or tree comes down) is call 911 and ask for help! It's almost as if they simply do not believe first responders will not come!

Amazing. They will endanger someone else's life just because they don't believe what they were told about how bad it might get, and then want to be "bailed out" once it does exactly what they were told it would do!

[eastcoastFL]

Do we even see this dropping below Cat 5 at this point? The eye won't pass over the Yucatan, and are conditions near FL that bad for development/stability?

Shear is going to significantly increase in the last 12-24 hours before Florida. Combine that with an interaction with a trough, and it should weaken rapidly before landfall.

But how rapid is rapid when this thing could be top 5 on record by the time it gets to that point is what I'm worried about, especially with the southern dip :\

It's really hard to say. Shear is one of those things that is really hard to forecast. Shear that exists right now won't be there tomorrow in many cases.

[tulum07]

Any idea of when Palm Beach County will be under a TS Warning instead of a Watch? Local channels predict 48 - 73 MPH Wed-Thurs.

[dukeblue219]

NOAA2 going in for another pass.

And USAF will be in the eye just minutes after

[Michele B]

About a half-hour ago CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper starts with Jake emphatically stating, A Category 5 hurricane is headed for Florida's west coast. If I didn't know Milton was forecast to weaken to a Cat 3 by the time its eye reaches Florida I would think it was going to hit at Cat 5 intensity! The news media really needs to stop with the sensationalist headlines.

If it gets people's attention, I'm ok with it.

It's better than if they ignore that fact, thinking, "Oh, it's weakening."

[Steve H.]

Before Andrew came in, I-95 traffic was diverted to only go north. There was no southbound traffic allowed.

[Jonny]

I once heard someone say there is no Category 6 Hurricanes, because there is no damage to analyze at that point, because there simply isn't anything left.

Is that true?

Certainly possible, but I think there is no C6 partially due to it not being common for cyclones to reach the pressure/winds to warrant another category.

[eastcoastFL]

I once heard someone say there is no Category 6 Hurricanes, because there is no damage to analyze at that point, because there simply isn't anything left.

Is that true?

Basically ya.

[Beef Stew]

I once heard someone say there is no Category 6 Hurricanes, because there is no damage to analyze at that point, because there simply isn't anything left.

Is that true?

More or less. Once you get past a certain point, catastrophic damage is more or less total. There’s not much that survives 160 mph winds just to fail at 180.