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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3341 Postby Bunkertor » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:17 pm

Highteeld wrote:Clear T 7.0 right now. They have just cause to set it to 140 knots

What does T 7.0 mean, please ?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs

#3342 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:17 pm

BIFF_THE_UNRULY wrote:
TTARider wrote:am i seeing things or does it look like it's moving due east, or maybe just slightly south of due east?

https://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/14L/imagery/rbtop-animated.gif



it did wobble east

every wobble matters down here


Not really, strong hurricanes tend to follow sinusoidal paths at this intensity. It was going north earlier. Overall trend looks unchanged to me.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs

#3343 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:18 pm

Milton appears to be undergoing another phase of RI at the moment. Unlike yesterday, next recon should be getting there at a good time. Teal 73 (Air Force WC-130J) will be in the air within half an hour.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs

#3344 Postby Stormgodess » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:18 pm

Does anyone know what Milton's projected landfill is, as it relates to High Tide?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3345 Postby jabman98 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:19 pm

Flwxguy86 wrote:
tulum07 wrote: I am not sure my primary residence in Oldsmar will see any storm surge or not but I am not going to stay here and find out that hard way.

A friend who lives in Oldsmar left yesterday. He's got his elderly mom and a dog dealing with a health issue to think of and didn't want to take any chances. Seems smart to leave given by the time you know for sure it'll be too late if you need to evac.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3346 Postby JtSmarts » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:19 pm

Bunkertor wrote:
Highteeld wrote:Clear T 7.0 right now. They have just cause to set it to 140 knots

What does T 7.0 mean, please ?


https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/products/ocea ... chart.html
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3347 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:20 pm

BobHarlem wrote:
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Steve wrote:
His live coverage of hurricanes is great so do flip to it from time to time when you come to commercials. Roku has the YouTube application for both Android Rokus and regular ones (I have both), and it’s free.



Thanks I'll probably just check out their footage the day after since it's archived on youtube.



Mark Sudduth/Hurricanetrack is usually the most interesting as far as cameras go.



Thanks, noted as well. Although I admit, I've always been a Jim Cantore fanboy. Of course he may not end up where Milton goes lol.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3348 Postby sicktght311 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:21 pm

Bunkertor wrote:
Highteeld wrote:Clear T 7.0 right now. They have just cause to set it to 140 knots

What does T 7.0 mean, please ?

Its a Dvorak measurement to estimate the intensity of Tropical Cylones based on Satellite and IR presentations. The higher the number goes towards 8, the more intense the Storm. T8.0 is basically the worst of the worst
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs

#3349 Postby zzzh » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:21 pm

AF plane departs in 30mins, should reach the center near 2030Z.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3350 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:21 pm

Bunkertor wrote:
Highteeld wrote:Clear T 7.0 right now. They have just cause to set it to 140 knots

What does T 7.0 mean, please ?

Advanced Dvorak Technique (ADT) evaluates TC intensity on a scale from 1.0 to 8.0, with 8 being perfect. A 7.0 is estimated to be the minimum for a cat5
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs

#3351 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:22 pm

I know it's expected to expand massively after a EWRC but anyone else still surprised how compact this storm is? This is good news if it can stay compact for as long as possible. Still expect the wind field and the storm itself to expand as it approaches the coast.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3352 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:22 pm

sicktght311 wrote:
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Highteeld wrote:Clear T 7.0 right now. They have just cause to set it to 140 knots

What does T 7.0 mean, please ?

Its a Dvorak measurement to estimate the intensity of Tropical Cylones based on Satellite and IR presentations. The higher the number goes towards 8.5, the more intense the number. T8.0+ is basically the worst of the worst

Beat me to it. Can 8.5 be assigned as a a final T value or is it only for raw and adjusted values?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs

#3353 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:23 pm

TTARider wrote:am i seeing things or does it look like it's moving due east, or maybe just slightly south of due east?

https://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/14L/imagery/rbtop-animated.gif


I think I see a northward wobble there in the last frame.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs

#3354 Postby Chemmers » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:26 pm

Hopefully it won't get any where close to T8.0 because that it haiyan level
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3355 Postby sicktght311 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:27 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
sicktght311 wrote:
Bunkertor wrote:What does T 7.0 mean, please ?

Its a Dvorak measurement to estimate the intensity of Tropical Cylones based on Satellite and IR presentations. The higher the number goes towards 8.5, the more intense the number. T8.0+ is basically the worst of the worst

Beat me to it. Can 8.5 be assigned as a a final T value or is it only for raw and adjusted values?

I adjusted my original post down to T8.0 because i believe 8.5 is only used by NOAA for adjusted values
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3356 Postby Steve » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:28 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
BobHarlem wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:

Thanks I'll probably just check out their footage the day after since it's archived on youtube.



Mark Sudduth/Hurricanetrack is usually the most interesting as far as cameras go.



Thanks, noted as well. Although I admit, I've always been a Jim Cantore fanboy. Of course he may not end up where Milton goes lol.


It’s a whole different world than Cantore. Mark will seek out eyewalls and the like for the most action there is. Just an FYI
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs

#3357 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:34 pm

When I woke up just a few hours ago, I thought Milton didn't look that healthy. Quite the drastic turnaround.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs

#3358 Postby Highteeld » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:34 pm

Looks like some Rossby Vortex Waves within the eyewall. SFC winds have to be very high in those, would bet this is well into cat 5 at this point.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 150 mph / 929 mbs

#3359 Postby TomballEd » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:36 pm

Flwxguy86 wrote:
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Flwxguy86 wrote:
I agree, I hope maybe it loses a bit of it's bite because I'll be riding it out in the middle of Pinellas county in Clearwater, If they track stays as it is now, I will go through the Northern eyewall of Milton, Which is exciting but kinda nerve wracking too. I am not worried about the place I will be staying just not looking forward to the damage and possible days or weeks without power. Although I am not sure my primary residence in Oldsmar will see any storm surge or not but I am not going to stay here and find out that hard way. I've been through one other cat 3 in my lifetime and that was Fran in 1996 I believe was the year but that was a long time ago and all I can really remember about that experience was how loud it was, sounded like someone was hammering the side of the house constantly.


Katrina was only a 3 at landfall. A high end Cat 4 a day from landfall will bring a big surge even if it has weakened. See also Ike, just a Cat 2, and big surge.


I know,I don't know how much you know about oldsmar though, it sits in a pretty unique position for this storm where it's almost the case that my current location will get next to none or up to 15 feet and it's all depended on the track. So, I am not staying here and using hope as a tool to justify staying here and just hoping the surge doesn't come. I wish I could just know for sure what the case is going to be but I've already made the decision to leave tomorrow morning unless I see some significant evidence that it's going to be farther south than sarasota but I am not going to know that information till it's already occurring. At least the timeline has been pushed a bit farther so I have the entire day today to watch and get things together.


Did you read my comments about the Katrina surge and take it as me telling you not to worry about surge? Because I don't know anybody who thought the Katrina surge was NBD.

If you think I was telling you to ignore evacuation orders, you read that quite incorrectly. Go now, you have less than a day before the weather gets bad.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 155 mph / 923 mbs / 18z Best Track up to 160 mph (Cat 5)

#3360 Postby underthwx » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:37 pm

Highteeld wrote:Looks like some Rossby Vortex Waves within the eyewall. SFC winds have to be very high in those, would bet this is well into cat 5 at this point.


If I may ask....what is a Rossby vortex wave?....thankyou!
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