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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3781 Postby xironman » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:49 pm

The AF plane had a double maxima as well, so the EWRC is happening
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3782 Postby Mike33534 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:49 pm

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3783 Postby Rail Dawg » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:49 pm

A well-developed hurricane going into hot bathtub water should be an indication that said hurricane is going to ramp up again.

They nail track not intensity.

Get outside young budding met types at and observe the weather. Every day. It ain't just what the computer tells you.

As told in many posts the panic and 200-mile lines of cars won't start until 24 hours prior.

Then it gets real. Very real.

Chased to the core 16 named hurricanes up close and personal. Inner eyewall of Cat 5 Michael. Many here remember the posts.

Plan on Cat 5 said that days ago that water is hot.

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3784 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:50 pm

Mike33534 wrote:https://i.ibb.co/G94f1kQ/goes16-ir-14-L.gif Movement as predicted?


He seems to be picking up speed.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3785 Postby Shawee » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:51 pm

tulum07 wrote:Don't look at the GFS model for 10/21, a copy cat major to New Orleans!

GFS had what is now Milton going into New Orleans this far out. There is another thread for long term predictions.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3786 Postby drewschmaltz » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:51 pm

It seems like a new EWRC wasn't as obviously forecasted as the previous one. In my opinion, an EWRC tonight can really lead to a variety of different outcomes. Im getting fatigue. I'm ready to get this over with. Can it be Thursday morning already?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3787 Postby xironman » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:52 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:A well-developed hurricane going into hot bathtub water should be an indication that said hurricane is going to ramp up again.

They nail track not intensity.

Get outside young budding met types at and observe the weather. Every day. It ain't just what the computer tells you.

As told in many posts the panic and 200-mile lines of cars won't start until 24 hours prior.

Then it gets real. Very real.

Chased to the core 16 named hurricanes up close and personal. Inner eyewall of Cat 5 Michael. Many here remember the posts.

Plan on Cat 5 said that days ago that water is hot.

Chuck


When it gets real find a nice parking garage
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3788 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:52 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:A well-developed hurricane going into hot bathtub water should be an indication that said hurricane is going to ramp up again.

They nail track not intensity.

Get outside young budding met types at and observe the weather. Every day. It ain't just what the computer tells you.

As told in many posts the panic and 200-mile lines of cars won't start until 24 hours prior.

Then it gets real. Very real.

Chased to the core 16 named hurricanes up close and personal. Inner eyewall of Cat 5 Michael. Many here remember the posts.

Plan on Cat 5 said that days ago that water is hot.

Chuck


There’s a lot of Florida rookies right now. They will learn a lot from this storm and do better next time.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3789 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:53 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:A well-developed hurricane going into hot bathtub water should be an indication that said hurricane is going to ramp up again.

They nail track not intensity.

Get outside young budding met types at and observe the weather. Every day. It ain't just what the computer tells you.

As told in many posts the panic and 200-mile lines of cars won't start until 24 hours prior.

Then it gets real. Very real.

Chased to the core 16 named hurricanes up close and personal. Inner eyewall of Cat 5 Michael. Many here remember the posts.

Plan on Cat 5 said that days ago that water is hot.

Chuck


But remember, it takes alot more than just hot bath water to intensify storms. And the shear is expected to ramp up starting tomorrow morning , as all of the models, ship data and national hurricane center have mentioned.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3790 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:54 pm

AF 907.2 extrap
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3791 Postby Travorum » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:54 pm

AF SE-NW pass part 1:
234800 2252N 08649W 6970 02793 9576 +123 //// 236121 124 104 003 01
234830 2254N 08649W 6973 02713 9520 +135 //// 236133 134 120 029 01
234900 2256N 08650W 6993 02581 9429 +130 //// 235138 142 132 030 01
234930 2257N 08651W 6946 02498 9208 +147 +146 228118 137 133 031 01
235000 2259N 08652W 6985 02359 9115 +203 +128 227061 097 121 001 00
235030 2300N 08653W 6970 02357 9072 +228 +113 242026 042 058 001 00
235100 2301N 08654W 6971 02357 9072 +231 +108 347003 019 037 001 03
235130 2303N 08654W 6972 02375 9115 +203 +122 072037 052 059 003 00
235200 2305N 08655W 6972 02447 9205 +150 +140 074086 106 143 020 00

907.2mb extrap | 142kts FL SE | 133kts SFMR SE

So far: 143mb SFMR NW
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3792 Postby Teban54 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:55 pm

drewschmaltz wrote:It seems like a new EWRC wasn't as obviously forecasted as the previous one. In my opinion, an EWRC tonight can really lead to a variety of different outcomes. Im getting fatigue. I'm ready to get this over with. Can it be Thursday morning already?

I would rather just have Milton freeze in time, so that we can admire its strength and beauty all we want without even having to think about the horrible destruction it will bring down the road.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3793 Postby hipshot » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:56 pm

Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/HxYvR0xF/goes16-ir-14-L-202410082227.gif [/url]

Meanwhile Milton continues ENE…


I think someone posted that Milton is expected to hit the loop current in just a few hours so we should know by morning.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3794 Postby zal0phus » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:58 pm

Teban54 wrote:
drewschmaltz wrote:It seems like a new EWRC wasn't as obviously forecasted as the previous one. In my opinion, an EWRC tonight can really lead to a variety of different outcomes. Im getting fatigue. I'm ready to get this over with. Can it be Thursday morning already?

I would rather just have Milton freeze in time, so that we can admire its strength and beauty all we want without even having to think about the horrible destruction it will bring down the road.

Wouldn't it be great if Milton just pulled a Juan 1985 and meandered itself to death in the Gulf?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3795 Postby xironman » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:58 pm

hipshot wrote:
Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/HxYvR0xF/goes16-ir-14-L-202410082227.gif [/url]

Meanwhile Milton continues ENE…


I think someone posted that Milton is expected to hit the loop current in just a few hours so we should know by morning.


06z->12z
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 902 mbs

#3796 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:00 pm

Hurricane Milton Intermediate Advisory Number 15A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
700 PM CDT Tue Oct 08 2024

...MILTON WILL BRING LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE AND WINDS TO
PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA GULF COAST...


SUMMARY OF 700 PM CDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...23.0N 86.9W
ABOUT 280 MI...450 KM WSW OF THE DRY TORTUGAS
ABOUT 440 MI...710 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH...270 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 70 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...902 MB...26.64 INCHES
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3797 Postby hipshot » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:00 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
Rail Dawg wrote:A well-developed hurricane going into hot bathtub water should be an indication that said hurricane is going to ramp up again.

They nail track not intensity.

Get outside young budding met types at and observe the weather. Every day. It ain't just what the computer tells you.

As told in many posts the panic and 200-mile lines of cars won't start until 24 hours prior.

Then it gets real. Very real.

Chased to the core 16 named hurricanes up close and personal. Inner eyewall of Cat 5 Michael. Many here remember the posts.

Plan on Cat 5 said that days ago that water is hot.

Chuck


There’s a lot of Florida rookies right now. They will learn a lot from this storm and do better next time.


If there is a next time :(
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 902 mbs

#3798 Postby Teban54 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:01 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:
Hurricane Milton Intermediate Advisory Number 15A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
700 PM CDT Tue Oct 08 2024

...MILTON WILL BRING LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE AND WINDS TO
PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA GULF COAST...


SUMMARY OF 700 PM CDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...23.0N 86.9W
ABOUT 280 MI...450 KM WSW OF THE DRY TORTUGAS
ABOUT 440 MI...710 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH...270 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 70 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...902 MB...26.64 INCHES

A little bit surprised they went with 902 mb given that recon is clearly showing a slight rise in pressure, but perhaps they're acknowledging the peak earlier. Either way, it's still impressive and insane for Milton to get this low twice.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 905 mbs

#3799 Postby kassi » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:02 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:A well-developed hurricane going into hot bathtub water should be an indication that said hurricane is going to ramp up again.

They nail track not intensity.

Get outside young budding met types at and observe the weather. Every day. It ain't just what the computer tells you.

As told in many posts the panic and 200-mile lines of cars won't start until 24 hours prior.

Then it gets real. Very real.

Chased to the core 16 named hurricanes up close and personal. Inner eyewall of Cat 5 Michael. Many here remember the posts.

Plan on Cat 5 said that days ago that water is hot.

Chuck

I may have missed it on here, but are you chasing Milton?
If so, please be careful and good luck.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion: 165 mph / 902 mbs

#3800 Postby Abdullah » Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:03 pm

Teban54 wrote:
ElectricStorm wrote:
Hurricane Milton Intermediate Advisory Number 15A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
700 PM CDT Tue Oct 08 2024

...MILTON WILL BRING LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE AND WINDS TO
PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA GULF COAST...


SUMMARY OF 700 PM CDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...23.0N 86.9W
ABOUT 280 MI...450 KM WSW OF THE DRY TORTUGAS
ABOUT 440 MI...710 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH...270 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...ENE OR 70 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...902 MB...26.64 INCHES

A little bit surprised they went with 902 mb given that recon is clearly showing a slight rise in pressure, but perhaps they're acknowledging the peak earlier. Either way, it's still impressive and insane for Milton to get this low twice.


902 mbar still a top ten peak
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