ATL: ERNESTO - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#461 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:41 am

In the eye now. Dead calm. Quick run around outside, no serious damage. Looks like the second half will be calmer.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#462 Postby abajan » Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:56 am

Nimbus wrote:
Kazmit wrote:Bermuda weather service is already reporting tropical storm force conditions.


Ernesto is passing to the east of Bermuda so that should drop the max winds.
Lots of rain though and power outages start occuring with even tropical storm strength winds.

Actually, the center of the eye ended up passing directly over the western side of Bermuda about 90 minutes ago.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#463 Postby abajan » Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:58 am

MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:In the eye now. Dead calm. Quick run around outside, no serious damage. Looks like the second half will be calmer.

Thanks for your eyewitness update. Be safe and do keep us posted!
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#464 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:58 am

abajan wrote:
Nimbus wrote:
Kazmit wrote:Bermuda weather service is already reporting tropical storm force conditions.


Ernesto is passing to the east of Bermuda so that should drop the max winds.
Lots of rain though and power outages start occuring with even tropical storm strength winds.

Actually, its eye ended up passing directly over the western side of Bermuda about 90 minutes ago.


I am central, eye was clear here too. No word from the East End them byes still sleeping
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#465 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:00 am

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#466 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:06 am

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#467 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:39 am

Wind building back now. Haven’t lost power but most of my friends have.

Power company outage map shows 24,000 outages. They have about 36,000 customers so that’s two thirds without power.

https://portal.belco.bm/app/outage/outageMap.jsp
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#468 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:54 am

MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:Wind building back now. Haven’t lost power but most of my friends have.

Power company outage map shows 24,000 outages. They have about 36,000 customers so that’s two thirds without power.

https://portal.belco.bm/app/outage/outageMap.jsp


At least one of the reported wind gusts from the east was 73 knots more like mid 50's sustained.
No cat 2 winds from the south which helped.
South side of the circulation may not be quite so bad but still could see more power outages.
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#469 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:22 am

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#470 Postby skyline385 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:56 am

Not the best appearance on IR but looking pretty good on Vis from all the dry air in its core and acquiring some subtropical characteristics.

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#471 Postby hipshot » Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:03 am

skyline385 wrote:Not the best appearance on IR but looking pretty good on Vis from all the dry air in its core and acquiring some subtropical characteristics.

https://i.imgur.com/WGnYUxn.gif


I wonder how long it will take for things to calm down and we/they can get an assessment of the damage...besides the power outages.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#472 Postby skyline385 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:37 am

hipshot wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Not the best appearance on IR but looking pretty good on Vis from all the dry air in its core and acquiring some subtropical characteristics.

https://i.imgur.com/WGnYUxn.gif


I wonder how long it will take for things to calm down and we/they can get an assessment of the damage...besides the power outages.


Bermuda is built like a tank, its the Guam of the NATL so they will be fine. Last time a major hit them they had zero fatalities and power restored within a day. Their topography also protects them from storm surge which is generally the biggest threat with these large systems.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#473 Postby skyline385 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:52 am

Ernesto's influence spans nearly across the entire NATL

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#474 Postby hipshot » Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:58 am

skyline385 wrote:Ernesto's influence spans nearly across the entire NATL

https://i.imgur.com/F8j0jhp.gif

https://i.imgur.com/WZ4xwQC.gif

From that last loop, it looks like it is coming almost full circle!
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#475 Postby REDHurricane » Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:54 pm

skyline385 wrote:Ernesto's influence spans nearly across the entire NATL

https://i.imgur.com/F8j0jhp.gif

https://i.imgur.com/WZ4xwQC.gif


Very cool, you can kind of see the concept of how hurricanes transfer tropical OHC energy from the surface up to the atmosphere and then radiate it poleward (analogously to the "heat engine" metaphor) in action
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#476 Postby WaveBreaking » Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:00 pm

Vis-Red + Tropical Airmass RGB Sandwich Loop:

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#477 Postby canebeard » Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:10 pm

With Ernesto, typical of many hurricanes north of latitude 30, there is very little convection on the south side. Even many (not all of course) hurricanes we have experienced along the north Gulf, or at Hatteras, once the eye passes, very little extreme conditions occur as the south half of the circulation passes over.

Hurricane Michelle at Nassau-Paradise Island in 2001 brought gusts to 109 mph on the front side (NE semicircle as it was moving NE), including torrential flooding rains. After the clear eye passed, the winds picked up and stayed a steady 85-90 mph for nearly an hour; BUT the sun was out the whole time. Strange for sure. Below is image of Michelle's curved front side eyewall as seen from inside the eye, with a rainbow in the eye created by the sea spray still in the air from the front side 100+ mph gusts. Image
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#478 Postby Kazmit » Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:42 pm

canebeard wrote:With Ernesto, typical of many hurricanes north of latitude 30, there is very little convection on the south side. Even many (not all of course) hurricanes we have experienced along the north Gulf, or at Hatteras, once the eye passes, very little extreme conditions occur as the south half of the circulation passes over.

Hurricane Michelle at Nassau-Paradise Island in 2001 brought gusts to 109 mph on the front side (NE semicircle as it was moving NE), including torrential flooding rains. After the clear eye passed, the winds picked up and stayed a steady 85-90 mph for nearly an hour; BUT the sun was out the whole time. Strange for sure. Below is image of Michelle's curved front side eyewall as seen from inside the eye, with a rainbow in the eye created by the sea spray still in the air from the front side 100+ mph gusts. https://i.imgur.com/po3YQd7.png

Interesting stuff. I’m guessing when hurricanes become embedded in the westerlies it’s more difficult to produce strong easterly winds on the south side?
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#479 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:22 pm

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#480 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Sat Aug 17, 2024 6:17 pm

Yeah at least in my stories when I personify them I think of this as their real goal...not destroying cities or something like that.

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skyline385 wrote:Ernesto's influence spans nearly across the entire NATL

https://i.imgur.com/F8j0jhp.gif

https://i.imgur.com/WZ4xwQC.gif


Very cool, you can kind of see the concept of how hurricanes transfer tropical OHC energy from the surface up to the atmosphere and then radiate it poleward (analogously to the "heat engine" metaphor) in action
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