ATL: MILTON - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#901 Postby underthwx » Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:44 pm

BobHarlem wrote:Florida's a little wet ahead of Milton

https://i.imgur.com/6GGAisu.gif

Very much so unfortunately....which could help Milton maintain while over land?....kinda like a brown ocean effect?...
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#902 Postby jfk08c » Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:49 pm

underthwx wrote:
BobHarlem wrote:Florida's a little wet ahead of Milton

https://i.imgur.com/6GGAisu.gif

Very much so unfortunately....which could help Milton maintain while over land?....kinda like a brown ocean effect?...


With the forecasted shear, I don't think it'll do much to counteract it
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#903 Postby HurricaneAndre2008 » Sun Oct 06, 2024 5:57 pm

Looks like Milton is really about to put on a show.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#904 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:00 pm

HurricaneAndre2008 wrote:Looks like Milton is really about to put on a show.

I’m going to wager that pressure is below 980 now. Looks like that dry air is mixed out. Could be wrong but we’ll know soon
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#905 Postby Travorum » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:03 pm

1 hour old microwave:

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#906 Postby shiftenter » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:06 pm

Abdullah wrote:
USTropics wrote:
al78 wrote:I am watching with interest the developing and potentially very destructive situation with Milton. The forecast track has been fairly consistent in the hurricane passing very close to Tampa. What are the chances of this hurricane pushing a surge into Tampa bay which gets funneled into the heavily populated areas of Tampa and St Petersburg? I had the same thoughts during Ian's approach to Florida a couple of years ago when it was originally forecast to pass very near Tampa to the west but the hurricane came ashore well to the south.


The surge would be significant if Tampa were to take a direct hit at that angle. Here is anticipated surge for a category 4 hurricane (red is 9+ feet, orange is 6-9 feet, yellow is 3-6 feet):
https://i.imgur.com/h3Ja1Mm.png
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/203f772571cb48b1b8b50fdcc3272e2c/page/Category-4/

Here is another look for a category 3 hurricane at mean tide:
https://i.imgur.com/zV3mDTZ.png

Essentially, the bay is a shallow estuary, with an average depth of 11 feet. The surge would be truly historic and significant, something living residents in Tampa area have never experienced before.


Is there a tool you used to make this?


Not the OP, but you may find https://cera.coastalrisk.live useful.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#907 Postby USTropics » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:09 pm

shiftenter wrote:
Abdullah wrote:
USTropics wrote:
The surge would be significant if Tampa were to take a direct hit at that angle. Here is anticipated surge for a category 4 hurricane (red is 9+ feet, orange is 6-9 feet, yellow is 3-6 feet):
https://i.imgur.com/h3Ja1Mm.png
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/203f772571cb48b1b8b50fdcc3272e2c/page/Category-4/

Here is another look for a category 3 hurricane at mean tide:
https://i.imgur.com/zV3mDTZ.png

Essentially, the bay is a shallow estuary, with an average depth of 11 feet. The surge would be truly historic and significant, something living residents in Tampa area have never experienced before.


Is there a tool you used to make this?


Not the OP, but you may find https://cera.coastalrisk.live useful.


This is super cool, didn't know this existed. Thanks for sharing!
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#908 Postby jhpigott » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:11 pm

BobHarlem wrote:Florida's a little wet ahead of Milton

https://i.imgur.com/6GGAisu.gif


Here in northern Palm Beach County, we've had 3-4 inches of rain since Friday morning, with a bunch more coming tonight and tomorrow before we even get any Milton related rain
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#909 Postby WaveBreaking » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:13 pm




IMO, I think Milton is trying to close off a smaller eyewall after that dry slot appeared. Here’s my interpretation of the lastest microwave image:

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#910 Postby zzzh » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:13 pm


Looks like a pinhole, waiting for recon to confirm it.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#911 Postby aspen » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:14 pm

WaveBreaking wrote:



IMO, I think Milton is trying to close off a smaller eyewall after that dry slot appeared. Here’s my interpretation of the lastest microwave image:

https://i.imgur.com/aoQhgcO.jpeg

That lines up with USTropic’s analysis a few pages ago.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#912 Postby grapealcoholic » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:17 pm

WaveBreaking wrote:



IMO, I think Milton is trying to close off a smaller eyewall after that dry slot appeared. Here’s my interpretation of the lastest microwave image:

https://i.imgur.com/aoQhgcO.jpeg


That curved band will become an EWRC eventually.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#913 Postby StormPyrate » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:22 pm

has this storm had an eyewall long enought to even have an eyewall replacement?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#914 Postby zal0phus » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:23 pm

GCANE wrote:
aspen wrote: What do you think of the possibility for Milton getting so close to the Yucatan that it gets disrupted/makes landfall? That would be a worst-case scenario for them, but spare Florida from one.


Its a possibility


It seems like a pretty narrow possibility to me. It would have to start diving due southeast anytime now.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#915 Postby zzzh » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:27 pm

Extrap 978.3mb
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#916 Postby Travorum » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:27 pm

978.3mb extrap (!), winds lagging in the NW thought.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#917 Postby ROCK » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:27 pm

A couple of planes in the storm now sampling. Should have good data in a few minutes. Flight level winds in the west and southwest are so so…

And there is the data lol…right on queue..
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#918 Postby Team Getterdun » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:28 pm

StormPyrate wrote:has this storm had an eyewall long enought to even have an eyewall replacement?


My thoughts exactly
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#919 Postby zzzh » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:31 pm

One thing I noticed is that the pressure gradient is less steep compared to previous passes. Need to tight up to get going faster.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#920 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 06, 2024 6:31 pm

978 is an impressive value already, the HAFS-A/B didn't have it that low until early tomorrow AM.
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