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ATL: OSCAR - Models

#1 Postby Teban54 » Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:01 am

These are probably overcooked, but just putting it out here.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#2 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:37 am

00z European moves it all the way to north of Dominican Republic.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#3 Postby kevin » Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:44 am

00z Euro, we could be tracking this one for a while. Most members eventually do develop this and make it a decent TS or at most a low-end hurricane. And of course there is one Euro member that decides we need an Irma-repeat, in October.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#4 Postby Teban54 » Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:06 am

kevin wrote:00z Euro, we could be tracking this one for a while. Most members eventually do develop this and make it a decent TS or at most a low-end hurricane. And of course there is one Euro member that decides we need an Irma-repeat, in October.

https://i.imgur.com/ICg0Kvm.png

Considering that the time frame in which EPS shows this is quite similar to when GFS and its ensembles show the Caribbean-Gulf system, would it be an either-or situation where significant development of one system would preclude the other or keep it weak? Or could this end up being another Irma-Jose scenario (with hopefully lower intensities)?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#5 Postby kevin » Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:08 am

Still very preliminary since we don't have a TC yet, but the 06z GEFS shows a more pronounced SW dip over the coming days than the previous GEFS ensembles. Reminiscent of Irma's SW dip (not implying that this system will be close in intensity to that monster), which would increase the risk for land impacts somewhere down the line.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#6 Postby USTropics » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:31 am

Ya know, just your standard African Easterly Wave traversing the entire Atlantic into the Caribbean during the middle of October ( :D ):
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#7 Postby jjoslin » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:38 am

Just really took notice of this fella (or lassie if I'm presumptive this is future Nadine) for the first time since the Milton commotion. Mostly I noticed how far west it is going and that in this run of the Euro it is going wsw albeit weakening.

In the setup above why would it not follow the stream of low pressure to its NE? Is that not a trough? I'm new to the forum is there a thread dedicated to meteorological theory questions? I had some notions about steering patterns that have been proven strikingly wrong. I'm a novice, meteorology fan and would love to know more from this great community.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#8 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:42 am

USTropics wrote:Ya know, just your standard African Easterly Wave traversing the entire Atlantic into the Caribbean during the middle of October ( :D ):
https://i.imgur.com/zIQBwAf.gif


Almost same track as Euro.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#9 Postby zzzh » Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:20 pm

GFS,EC, CMC, ICON all agree on some development as it crosses 60W. Will it enter the Caribbean and will the west Caribbean system develop and induce shear over it?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#10 Postby WaveBreaking » Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:19 pm

jjoslin wrote:Just really took notice of this fella (or lassie if I'm presumptive this is future Nadine) for the first time since the Milton commotion. Mostly I noticed how far west it is going and that in this run of the Euro it is going wsw albeit weakening.
https://imgur.com/dSRtkCN
In the setup above why would it not follow the stream of low pressure to its NE? Is that not a trough? I'm new to the forum is there a thread dedicated to meteorological theory questions? I had some notions about steering patterns that have been proven strikingly wrong. I'm a novice, meteorology fan and would love to know more from this great community.



That large area of high pressure to the north is the main reason why. It’s imparting northeasterly flow on the storm which limits its ability to move to the east. However the storm does start to slow down and change direction at the end of the run, so you are right in that the front would influence the storm to track to the northeast. Also 500 mbar plots from that model run show a trough exiting the US at 240 hours, which would definitely guide the system to the northeast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#11 Postby BobHarlem » Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:03 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#12 Postby gatorcane » Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:30 pm

Latest EC-AIFS bring this all the way into the NW Caribbean with development as does the GFS and CMC, hard to believe but here is the loop:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#13 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:12 pm

gatorcane wrote:Latest EC-AIFS bring this all the way into the NW Caribbean with development as does the GFS and CMC, hard to believe but here is the loop:

https://i.postimg.cc/LswVXNc9/ec-aifs-mslp-pcpn-atl-fh6-240.gif


Yeah, a lot of the models have actually been hinting at this. The Canadian had it too, briefly.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#14 Postby gatorcane » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:19 pm

12Z CMC:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#15 Postby Kazmit » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:36 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#16 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:46 pm

kevin wrote:00z Euro, we could be tracking this one for a while. Most members eventually do develop this and make it a decent TS or at most a low-end hurricane. And of course there is one Euro member that decides we need an Irma-repeat, in October.

https://i.imgur.com/ICg0Kvm.png

Any news about the 00z Euro today? :sun:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#17 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:51 pm

Can't post graphic as is for subscribers but 12z Euro has a cat 2 from 94L in NW Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#18 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:52 pm

12z Euro has a hurricane in the NW Caribbean at the end of its run. Worth watching.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#19 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:52 pm




Well hello there...

Sneaky little thing. :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#20 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:04 pm

lol...ok. :roll:

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