ATL: Ex INVEST 99L - Discussion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#181 Postby LAF92 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:17 am

It seems it’s treking north of guidance at present time
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#182 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:19 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#183 Postby Cachondo23 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:45 am

LAF92 wrote:It seems it’s treking north of guidance at present time

Yeah, looks like very heavy rain in Martinique right now. Barbados will get some soon per radar. Dominica and Guadaluope could follow later.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#184 Postby zhukm29 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:47 am

Shear is a bit lower now compared to most of its lifetime, giving 99L a short reprieve before it enters the Caribbean graveyard... kind of like some time to power up before meeting the next boss.
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I do see a bit more rotation near the end of the loop... maybe this persistent little wave will finally have a chance to earn itself a name, provided it organizes itself in the short window it has. It has been done before, and you can never write off a 99L. Recon should be in shortly.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#185 Postby TomballEd » Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:53 am

zhukm29 wrote:Shear is a bit lower now compared to most of its lifetime, giving 99L a short reprieve before it enters the Caribbean graveyard... kind of like some time to power up before meeting the next boss.
https://i.ibb.co/67t0rFXM/wg8shr.gif

I do see a bit more rotation near the end of the loop... maybe this persistent little wave will finally have a chance to earn itself a name, provided it organizes itself in the short window it has. It has been done before, and you can never write off a 99L. Recon should be in shortly.
https://i.postimg.cc/GhxLm2Jc/c9253aee-43b1-4422-bb95-a7246bd3f85c.gif


Recon seems to suggest a wave axis with a point on that axis being near Grande-Terre.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#186 Postby zhukm29 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:49 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#187 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:54 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Sun Aug 24 2025

East of the Windward Islands (AL99):
A tropical wave located just east of the Windward Islands continues
to produce shower and thunderstorm activity. While satellite data
indicates that the wave does not appear to have a surface
circulation, an Air Force Reserve reconnaissance aircraft is
currently investigating the area. This system could still become a
tropical depression during the next day or two while it moves
quickly westward at about 20 to 25 mph, passing through the Windward
and Leeward Islands later today and early Monday. Regardless of
development, heavy rainfall and gusty winds to tropical storm force
are likely across portions of the Windward and Leeward Islands
today and Monday. The system is expected to reach the central
Caribbean Sea on Tuesday, where conditions are forecast to become
less favorable for additional development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...40 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#188 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Aug 24, 2025 12:55 pm

For the first time in 5 days it doesn't have an LLC on satellite or even with recon. lol You can't make this poop up. I bet 20 bucks if it had gone into it 3 days ago they would have named it.
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#189 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:00 pm

And thats about all she wrote on this system, next
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#190 Postby StormWeather » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:03 pm

Stratton23 wrote:And thats about all she wrote on this system, next

I’m not ready to call it quits yet. Recon just did a loop within a loop and I’m thinking that I am seeing a NW to SW turning in that area could be happening. Could just be a wave axis, and that is my best bet for now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#191 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:08 pm

Stormweather its possible, but since its likely just a wave axis, its going to get shredded apart in the caribbean now , i guess the one to watch is if this wave splits and a piece of this somehow ends up in the gulf, although that seems unlikely given its doesnt have a closed low
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#192 Postby TomballEd » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:27 pm

Posted in recon thread as well. It looks like a sharp wave. I do hope the plane flies a little farther S just to be sure.

I think its best chance of development is in the East Pac, but there are GFS ensemble outliers with impressive Gulf storms (see models thread) Or too soon to say 'next'.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#193 Postby floridasun » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:53 pm

we likely won't see any system next week so doing peak part season this going into area that tropical wave gets destroy high too strong pull it fast west enjoy long weekend next weekend don't anything forming unless surprise
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#194 Postby zhukm29 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:55 pm

Plane is doing a SW pass, seems like this is where it could be consolidating. 99L being less organized is a good thing though as it reduces the likelihood it could get pulled up into the Gulf.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#195 Postby Nimbus » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:57 pm

Recon hasn't found any yellow barbed winds over 45 mph so NHC skipped the issues with posting late warnings.
Its a wave with lowest pressures near 1012 mb. Low pressure extends quite far north and they haven't flown the southern part of the wave yet.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#196 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:57 pm

No closed low yet, but its becoming evident that it is most certainly trying to close off a low, we will see, the SW side is definitely becoming a little more “ consolidated” if you ask me
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (40/40)

#197 Postby chaser1 » Sun Aug 24, 2025 3:13 pm

LAF92 wrote:It seems it’s treking north of guidance at present time


Agreed; I see a somewhat more pronounced albeit weak circulation around 15.5 N, with a possible much smaller potential area of turning further south at 13.5 N. The southernmost point happens to be where the most intense convection us occurring
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (30/30)

#198 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 24, 2025 3:34 pm

East of the Windward Islands (AL99):
Data from the Air Force reconnaissance aircraft indicate that the
system located near the Windward Islands does not have a closed
low-level circulation. However, the system is still producing a
large area of showers and thunderstorms and winds to near gale
force, and these conditions are expected to affect the Windward and
Leeward Islands tonight and Monday. The system is expected to reach
the central Caribbean Sea on Tuesday, where conditions are forecast
to become less favorable for additional development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (30/30)

#199 Postby TomballEd » Sun Aug 24, 2025 5:04 pm

There is recon data now for the 0Z models to run with, the first pass through the wave axis came right around 18Z. Maybe the models will find something. But so far, support has dropped on the models and lower level *divergence* is ahead of 99L, without a closed center it will struggle to even maintain convection.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion (30/30)

#200 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 24, 2025 6:46 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 PM EDT Sun Aug 24 2025

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of America:

Active Systems:
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Tropical
Storm Fernand, located over the central subtropical Atlantic.

1. East the Windward Islands (AL99):
The tropical wave just east of the Windward Islands is producing a
large area of showers and thunderstorms with winds to near gale
force. These conditions are expected to affect the Windward and
Leeward Islands tonight and Monday. Earlier reconnaissance aircraft
data indicated that the system did not have a closed low-level
circulation. Another Air Force reconnaissance aircraft is scheduled
to investigate the system overnight, if necessary. The disturbance
is expected to reach the central Caribbean Sea on Tuesday, where
conditions are forecast to become less favorable for additional
development.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.



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