Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean (Is Invest 95L)

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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1061 Postby SFLcane » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:03 pm

Hmmm... pressure’s slowly falling.

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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1062 Postby Frank2 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:05 pm

I was in Broward for Irma - gusts to 100 were hard to ignore. The stress alone in the 5 days prior to Irma were enough to wear anyone to a frazzle. We were very very fortunate considering the forecast was consistently for a Category 3 or 4 - many were praying...

In 1992 lost my rented house during Andrew so it's been tempting to give up and leave instead of walking on eggs every summer, but every area of the country has something to deal with...

The state has taken it's share but if it were not for the Greater Antilles we'd be more vulnerable.

P.S. We've received a bucket of rain in the past few days so it's not been completely quiet...
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1063 Postby SFLcane » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:09 pm

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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1064 Postby us89 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:17 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:It really is amazing that the Peninsula has pretty much been untouched despite the shear volume of storms. In fact, I believe that the only time the Peninsula has been under a watch or warning was for Isaias in July. And we all know that ended up being a non-event.


Can't forget the TS watch for the depression that would later become Sally.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1065 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:22 pm

us89 wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:It really is amazing that the Peninsula has pretty much been untouched despite the shear volume of storms. In fact, I believe that the only time the Peninsula has been under a watch or warning was for Isaias in July. And we all know that ended up being a non-event.


Can't forget the TS watch for the depression that would later become Sally.

Fortunately TS winds were only reported in extreme SW Florida and the middle Keys. Still here in coastal Palm Beach County we’re under TS and Hurricane Watches/Warnings for both Isaias and Sally and didn’t manage to receive any TS or Hurricane conditions.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1066 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:24 pm

Frank2 wrote:
Someday we will have to pay the piper. Despite what everyone says, the "shield" is a figment of everyone's imagination. That fantasy is set up for failure.


Someday? We were directly affected by 4 hurricanes in 2004 and 2005, and 2 in 2016 and 2017. The lower Keys suffered serious damage in 1998, and 57,000 homes were destroyed by Andrew's winds in 1992...

Glad nothing so far this year - we have enough to deal with as it is. The key is not believing everything the models create because they are only as good as the data they collect, and why operational forecasters routinely discard model data beyond 168 hours - just too unreliable...

I think SouthFLTropics is referring to metropolitan SE Florida which has been VERY lucky these past five seasons if you include this season.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1067 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:31 pm

Frank2 wrote:I was in Broward for Irma - gusts to 100 were hard to ignore. The stress alone in the 5 days prior to Irma were enough to wear anyone to a frazzle. We were very very fortunate considering the forecast was consistently for a Category 3 or 4 - many were praying...

In 1992 lost my rented house during Andrew so it's been tempting to give up and leave instead of walking on eggs every summer, but every area of the country has something to deal with...

The state has taken it's share but if it were not for the Greater Antilles we'd be more vulnerable.

P.S. We've received a bucket of rain in the past few days so it's not been completely quiet...


The leadup to Irma was without a doubt stressful. In many ways, Dorian last year was very similar. We thought we were going to get bulldozed by that thing. There is absolutely no question that the Greater Antilles have been the sacrificial lamb and have saved the Peninsula many many times over the years. The rain the past few days is really becoming a pain. I'm looking forward to some high pressure in control, crystal clear blue skies, lower humidity, and temps in the 50's. Bring on the cold fronts!!!
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1068 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:33 pm

Well, we have the WCar gyre/low on the 19th/20th, just as expected. Now comes the waiting game to see if it’ll do anything.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1069 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:30 pm

0%. Development is not anticipated.

A trough of low pressure, extending from the Yucatan Channel
southeastward into the southwestern Caribbean Sea, is producing
disorganized showers and thunderstorms over portions of the western
Caribbean Sea. Upper-level winds are expected to remain unfavorable
during the next several days and therefore development of this
system is not anticipated as it drifts westward during the next few
days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...near 0 percent.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1070 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:01 pm

1,070 posts for a 0/0? This is gonna go down in Storm2k history.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1071 Postby MarioProtVI » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:44 pm

Should have a petition to rename this thread to “Ghost Caribbean storm on GFS” :lol: :lol:
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1072 Postby LarryWx » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:17 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:Should have a petition to rename this thread to “Ghost Caribbean storm on GFS” :lol: :lol:


I think we should just go ahead and name this storm Casper.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1073 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:20 pm

aspen wrote:1,070 posts for a 0/0? This is gonna go down in Storm2k history.

Plus 50+ pages if you include the Global Models Thread discussion.

I mean how many weeks have we’ve been discussing this “ghost” storm? :roll:
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1074 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:23 pm

Because of this ghost, the GFS has the right to remain silent... Anything it shows can and will be used against it on this board... :lol:
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1075 Postby toad strangler » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:54 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:
Frank2 wrote:I was in Broward for Irma - gusts to 100 were hard to ignore. The stress alone in the 5 days prior to Irma were enough to wear anyone to a frazzle. We were very very fortunate considering the forecast was consistently for a Category 3 or 4 - many were praying...

In 1992 lost my rented house during Andrew so it's been tempting to give up and leave instead of walking on eggs every summer, but every area of the country has something to deal with...

The state has taken it's share but if it were not for the Greater Antilles we'd be more vulnerable.

P.S. We've received a bucket of rain in the past few days so it's not been completely quiet...


The leadup to Irma was without a doubt stressful. In many ways, Dorian last year was very similar. We thought we were going to get bulldozed by that thing. There is absolutely no question that the Greater Antilles have been the sacrificial lamb and have saved the Peninsula many many times over the years. The rain the past few days is really becoming a pain. I'm looking forward to some high pressure in control, crystal clear blue skies, lower humidity, and temps in the 50's. Bring on the cold fronts!!!


I don't know why the Greater Antilles have to be mentioned as a savior. :roll: For crying out loud they are a PERMANENT feature. It's not like they are a transient thing like a trough or something that can save the day in a pinch.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1076 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:04 pm

toad strangler wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:
Frank2 wrote:I was in Broward for Irma - gusts to 100 were hard to ignore. The stress alone in the 5 days prior to Irma were enough to wear anyone to a frazzle. We were very very fortunate considering the forecast was consistently for a Category 3 or 4 - many were praying...

In 1992 lost my rented house during Andrew so it's been tempting to give up and leave instead of walking on eggs every summer, but every area of the country has something to deal with...

The state has taken it's share but if it were not for the Greater Antilles we'd be more vulnerable.

P.S. We've received a bucket of rain in the past few days so it's not been completely quiet...


The leadup to Irma was without a doubt stressful. In many ways, Dorian last year was very similar. We thought we were going to get bulldozed by that thing. There is absolutely no question that the Greater Antilles have been the sacrificial lamb and have saved the Peninsula many many times over the years. The rain the past few days is really becoming a pain. I'm looking forward to some high pressure in control, crystal clear blue skies, lower humidity, and temps in the 50's. Bring on the cold fronts!!!


I don't know why the Greater Antilles have to be mentioned as a savior. :roll: For crying out loud they are a PERMANENT feature. It's not like they are a transient thing like a trough or something that can save the day in a pinch.

The only “savior” in Irma’s history is whatever pushed it further south into Cuba and stopped its second RI phase before it could become a >155 kt monster again. “Savior” is in quotation marks because Cuba still got a Cat 5 landfall, even though southern Florida was spared from something that could’ve been much worse than a 100-115 kt Cat 3/4.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1077 Postby LarryWx » Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:20 pm

0Z UKMET has Casper for the 2nd time a TC (hour 120), this time making him a TS at 144:

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 120 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+120 : 27.0N 77.9W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 26.10.2020 120 27.0N 77.9W 1005 31
1200UTC 26.10.2020 132 28.4N 75.3W 1004 34
0000UTC 27.10.2020 144 30.0N 72.6W 997 41
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1078 Postby Spacecoast » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:06 am

18z NAV genesis prob goes down from 34% to 28%, and location shifts NE to Bahamas.
(Also, the AEW wave @ 34% in 66hrs)
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1079 Postby LarryWx » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:08 am

1. The 0Z GEFS is very quiet with this.

2. 0Z UKMET hour 114 pre TC stage as it is moving NE:

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3. Here is the 0Z CMC hour 102, also at pre-TC stage as it moves NE:

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4. Here is the 0Z NAVGEM, showing for the 6th run in a row a surface low as it moves NE:

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Moral of the story: bears watching just in case. Regardless, this could be a heavy rain threat for mainly SE FL and some of the Bahamas.
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Re: Trough of low pressure in Western Caribbean

#1080 Postby Blown Away » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:17 am

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